[SETUP] Jester's Worst Nightmare

[BBmolla]

Jester's Worst Nightmare

9 Players

2 Mafia Goons

1 Jester

6 Vanilla Townies

• Mafia have no night kill.
  
• If the Jester is lynched, that night the Mafia will kill enough Townies to bring the game to LYLO.
  
• If the Jester is in a MYLO or LYLO situation, he immediately commits suicide. When calculating whether it is MYLO or LYLO, count the Jester as Town. (Assuming 2 scum live, MYLO is at 6p, not 8p.)
  
• Pregame and every night, Mafia select a player. That player will be publicly announced to have gained the "vengeful" attribute for that day. If the lynched player is town, they get to shoot a player. If the lynched player is the Jester or Mafia, they do not get to shoot anyone.
  
• Jester wins if lynched. If shot, he loses.

Haven't done the math, not really sure how I'd write the correct equation for this.

[BuJaber]

Does the vengeful have to be the one being lynched to kill someone? It sounds like no.

Can mafia pick themselves to be vengeful?

[BBmolla]

Does the vengeful have to be the one being lynched to kill someone? It sounds like no.

Can mafia pick themselves to be vengeful?

Yes, vengeful must be lynched to kill someone.

Yes, mafia can pick themselves, but ultimately if they are lynched they do not get to use the vengeful.

[Bicephalous Bob]

I like it, but it's probably scum-sided. I'm not seeing how the town-scum balance is better for town than 2v7 mountainous. Make it nightless, also allow vengeful scum to shoot?

Or better yet, tell scum the identity of the jester and give them an additional kill when they successfully get the jester vengekilled, a la sadomafiosochism but even more ludicrous.

[BBmolla]

Oi sorry it is nightless, oop

[BBmolla]

Well in the sense mafia have no nightkill, they still get a quick minute to decide who gets to be vengeful the next day

[BBmolla]

Might give mafia knowledge of who jester is though, lemme sleep on it

[Bicephalous Bob]

never mind, it doesn't work because it forces the mafia to out themselves when the jester in on L-1

[BBmolla]

never mind, it doesn't work because it forces the mafia to out themselves when the jester in on L-1

How so?

[Bicephalous Bob]

if the jester is lynched, the Mafia lose, so when the oblivious town tries to lynch the jester, one of the Mafia will have to say "no, that's not a good idea, that man is a jester, I know this because I uh"

sado works because the game continues after the jester is lynched

[BBmolla]

Jester and Mafia can joint win

[Bicephalous Bob]

like in lylo?

[Bicephalous Bob]

or like in game continues when jester is dead?

[BBmolla]

Either way