[FEBRUARY CHALLENGE] Voting!

[Not Known 15]

If there is still time...
Best:
Recruitment(my setup)

Place 2:Romeo,Romeo,Romeo,Mercutio

Place 3:House Party

Place 4:Tough on Crime

Place 5:The Representative

The Rest/place 6:every other setup

Second Last Place:Boardroom 3

Last place:Face Eaters.

[mith]

Yeah just pretend I submitted boardroom 2 - 3 isn't quite right

This is fine with me. The last revision is listed for all of them, but if you like an earlier better by all means reflect that in your rankings.

I will close this tomorrow (?). Once I've had a chance to read through and vote myself.

[Awoo]

Yeah just pretend I submitted boardroom 2 - 3 isn't quite right

Probably wouldn't change my position, tbh. :shrug:

who are you?

[BNL]

House Party - I like the mechanic, and it is especially rewarding if town can identify a townblock or reduce a scumteam to a pool.

Rivalries - I like this spinoff of Coalition, but thinking about it further, one issue I have is that Day 1 may be a LAMIST game due to the 1v1 nature of it

The Boardroom 2 - It's a nice spin on the classic 2:6 nightless

Tough on Crime - I like the idea of the Parole list, but there are too many PRs for my liking

Three Pods - I don't know how to be unbiased here, so I'm really using this as a dividing line between setups I really liked and setups that didn't click as well with me

Love em and Leave em - Like the mechanic, but I feel it's too townsided

Romeo, Romeo - I'm not really excited about scum choosing lover pairs in pregame, because there's not enough information to come out of that.

The Representative - This elimination mechanic is really awkward to use (seems impossible to eliminate a meaningful amount of scum because of how the represenatives to be eliminated choose the next round), and players will not be directly interacting with each other, making this a hugely "he said, she said" game, especially for the representatives.

Three Strikes - Too simple

Recruitment - I don't like how scum don't have a good chance at winning this unless they make a successful recruit which has a 50% chance of succeeding.

@NK15

By the way, does the Mafia Applicant know who the Mafia Lovers are?

The Wilderness - Probably townsided with no Mafia kills, and too messy for my liking

Guidiance - My head hurts thinking about it

City Council - Not different enough from vanilla Mafia imo

Face Eaters - lolno

[northsidegal]

Love 'em and Leave 'em (Jingle)
Romeo, Romeo (Romeo, Romeo, Romeo, Mercutio) (irrelephant11)
three strikes (Something_Smart)
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Rivalries (implosion)
House Party (RadiantCowbells)
The Boardroom 2: Corporate Secrets (Awoo)
Three Pods (BulletNLynchproof)
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The Wilderness (BBmolla)
The Representative (califorjudgement)
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Guidance (BuJaber)
City Council V3 (Allomancer)
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Recruitment (Not Known 15)
Face Eaters (Bicephalous Bob)


order within groups doesn't mean anything

[RadiantCowbells]

House Party (my own game)
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Rivalries
Three Pods (good games that I'd play)
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Other Setups (okay games that I wouldn't play)
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Face Eaters (just dont like it at all)

[schadd_]

house partyrepresentative
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love em and leave emrivalriestough on crime
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recruitmentcity councilromeo romeothree strikesboardroomthree pods
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guidancewildernessface eaters

[the worst]

I haven't had a lot of time to meditate on a setup idea or process which of these I like/dislike the most, so won't be participating in voting (this time!!)

March feels like a good month <3 good luck all

[mith]

Ok, this is happening today, one way or another. Grr.

[mith]

Ok, my list; all ordered (not that I put just a ton of thought into order within a group other than the top).

Interesting

- would like to see these run
Rivalries (implosion)
City Council V3 (Allomancer)
Romeo, Romeo (Romeo, Romeo, Romeo, Mercutio) (irrelephant11)
Three Pods (BulletNLynchproof)
The Representative (califorjudgement)

Ok

- could be fine, but either not sure that it would work out well, or needs tweaking
The Boardroom 3: Shredded Documents (Awoo)
Love 'em and Leave 'em (Jingle)
Tough on Crime (northsidegal)
The Wilderness (BBmolla)
three strikes (Something_Smart)

Meh

- meh
Recruitment (Not Known 15)
Guidance (BuJaber)
House Party (RadiantCowbells)

???

Face Eaters (Bicephalous Bob)

[mith]

Will work out the voting results shortly.

[mith]

Results

(with pairwise W-L-T)
1. Rivalries (implosion) - 13-0
2. Romeo, Romeo (Romeo, Romeo, Romeo, Mercutio) (irrelephant11) - 12-1
3. House Party (RadiantCowbells) - 10-2-1 (tied pairwise with Love 'em or Leave 'em)
4. Three Pods (BulletNLynchproof) - 9-4 (lost pairwise to Tough on Crime, RP puts them in this order)
5. The Boardroom 2/3 (Awoo) - 9-4
6. Tough on Crime (northsidegal) - 9-4
7. Love 'em and Leave 'em (Jingle) - 7-5-1
8. The Representative (califorjudgement) - 6-7
9t. Recruitment (Not Known 15) - 4-8-1
9t. three strikes (Something_Smart) - 4-8-1
11. The Wilderness (BBmolla) - 3-10
12. City Council V3 (Allomancer) - 2-11
13. Guidance (BuJaber) - 1-12
14. Face Eaters (Bicephalous Bob) - 0-13

Congrats, implosion!

[mith]

FWIW, I ranked House Party so low almost entirely because of the random selection in case of no majority. If I had commented earlier, I would have suggested just leaving this out - town has an incentive to successfully split the parties, due to the nightkill restriction, so force them to get to a majority. (Didn't matter in the end results, though.)

[implosion]

Thanks

New thread will go up today.

[Irrelephant11]

Congrats implo! I’d play it

[mith]

If no one else has claimed it, I will be happy to run Rivalries at some point. (It just may be a little while before I have time.)

[Irrelephant11]

Also ranked pairing was interesting for voting! I liked being able to place some setups on equal ranking when I scored them

[mith]

There's a nice demo of Condorcet methods here:

https://robla.net/1996/politics/condorcet-front.html

Enter in the first box:

1,Recruitment (Not Known 15)
2,Love 'em and Leave 'em (Jingle)
3,City Council V3 (Allomancer)
4,Rivalries (implosion)
5,House Party (RadiantCowbells)
6,Guidance (BuJaber)
7,Romeo, Romeo (Romeo, Romeo, Romeo, Mercutio) (irrelephant11)
8,three strikes (Something_Smart)
9,The Wilderness (BBmolla)
10,The Boardroom 2/3 (Awoo)
11,Three Pods (BulletNLynchproof)
12,The Representative (califorjudgement)
13,Face Eaters (Bicephalous Bob)
14,Tough on Crime (northsidegal)

And in the second:

1:4>7=10=11>2=5=12=14>1=9>3=8>6=13
1:1>4>11>7>2>10>12>8>5>14>9>3>13>6
1:4>7>12>1>5>14>11>10>2>3>8>6>9>13
1:14>4>2>7>5>11>8>12>9>3>10>6>1>13
1:7=10>2>4=11=14>1=8>3=5>12>6=9=13
1:1>7>5>14>12>2=3=4=6=8=9=11>10>13
1:5>4>10>14>11>2>7>12>8>1>9>6>3>13
1:14>2=7=8>4=5=10=11>9=12>3=6>1=13
1:5>4=11>1=2=3=6=7=8=9=10=12=14>13
1:5=12>2=4=14>1=3=7=8=10=11>6=9=13
1:4>3>7>11>12>10>2>14>9>8>1>6>5>13
1:3>1=2=4=5=6=7=8=9=10=11=12=13=14
1:6>1=2=3=4=5=7=8=9=10=11=12=13=14
1:9>1=2=3=4=5=6=7=8=10=11=12=13=14
1:10>1=2=3=4=5=6=7=8=9=11=12=13=14
1:13>1=2=3=4=5=6=7=8=9=10=11=12=14

Ranked Pairs only matters if there is a cycle; otherwise, the results just follow the candidates which beat all candidates below them.

[Awoo]

I don't vote. I don't believe in democracy.

[mith]

This is secretly a dictatorship. I could have messed with the numbers and no one would ever actually check...

[Jingle]

More to the point, even if someone did check they probably wouldn't bother pointing it out.

[RadiantCowbells]

I came third yay

[implosion]

New thread!