[SETUP] White Knight

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Post Post #25 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:10 am

Post by singletonking »

How about this:

Black Knight

2 Mafia 7 Town
On Days 1 and 2, every lynch must have a Mafia on it, or town win.
Self voting for town and scum are allowed.
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Post Post #26 (ISO) » Tue Jun 18, 2019 8:26 pm

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Sorry for double bumping, but I dislike how the original setup incentivises bussing too much. I'd like some discussion on how to improve that aspect.
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Post Post #27 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:46 am

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Is it really a problem? Bussing loses you a teammate. If the scum blindly grants you the exact same amount of town cred the move warrants in mountainous that's the town's fault?
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Post Post #28 (ISO) » Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:22 am

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OK, so the big problem is that in case of a mislynch Day 1, you get a pool of 3 players of which one must be town. This is reduced to 2 players on Day 2.

Town get too much information by mislynching.

Compare this to the ome-time pool of 5 players in Coalition Mafia.

If we instead force scum to be
on
the wagon, we get coalition pools of 5 and 4, or 4 and 3 if we permit self voting. This seems to be much better balanced.
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Post Post #29 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2019 8:48 am

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You could just do the thing where, before the day, the scum get to pick 1 person that can be mislynched in violation of the restriction? I think it was one of your setups that included that. Maybe someone else's. It seems like maybe that helps here.
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Post Post #30 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:48 am

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Post Post #31 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:49 am

Post by RadiantCowbells »

i think this still kinda favors quickhammering d1 and selfvoting d2
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