[Setup] OMGUS Mafia

TDC · Post Post #0 (ISO) » Fri May 31, 2019 5:39 am

Numbers up for discussion. Probably close to standard mountaineous ratios?

Any time a vote is reciprocated, both players die and the day ends without a lynch.

TDC · Post Post #1 (ISO) » Fri May 31, 2019 5:50 am

Maybe slight increase of townies.

popsofctown · Post Post #2 (ISO) » Fri May 31, 2019 7:44 am

Login times/ability to access the thread becomes significant, which is not great for forum mafia (but maybe not a problem at all for marathons/forum mafia). Players who want to perform a lynch without endangering themselves might need to dogpile a player when they are afk for Saturday or something.

TDC · Post Post #3 (ISO) » Fri May 31, 2019 8:26 am

Fair point. How about it only happens if reciprocal votes are present at lynch time and not with the lynchee.

popsofctown · Post Post #4 (ISO) » Fri May 31, 2019 8:56 am

Then it's pretty close to vengeful? Which is not bad for open setups, I think heavily vengeful open setups are pretty common/popular.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #5 (ISO) » Fri May 31, 2019 8:58 am

would be best executed as a plurality vote setup

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #6 (ISO) » Fri May 31, 2019 8:59 am

do keep in mind that this is highly likely to devolve into town attempting to leash the lynch votes and have 2 scumread slots kill each other

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #7 (ISO) » Fri May 31, 2019 9:00 am

so uh it probably balances closer to double day with some caveats regarding scum's ability to manipulate the situation and not vengekill each other

popsofctown · Post Post #8 (ISO) » Fri May 31, 2019 9:07 am

RC is better at breaking setups than I am.

TDC · Post Post #9 (ISO) » Fri May 31, 2019 10:00 am

In post 6, RadiantCowbells wrote:do keep in mind that this is highly likely to devolve into town attempting to leash the lynch votes and have 2 scumread slots kill each other

You are right, that's not what I was going for.

How about any three player group can suicide if two of them agree on it.

That would work for two town sure of one scum, and one town sure there is scum in an OMGUS pair.

Would need more town obv.

TDC · Post Post #10 (ISO) » Fri May 31, 2019 10:12 am

Also, probably needs to be deactivated in 4 player lylo.

Edit:
Maybe just run this without conventional lynch and nightless. Town loses when they can't force a win anymore, i. e. when townies <= 2 * mafia.

TDC · Post Post #11 (ISO) » Fri May 31, 2019 10:29 am

So 8:2 would allow one town triple (5:2->3:1->1:0)

TDC · Post Post #12 (ISO) » Fri May 31, 2019 11:25 am

Think this would force townies to play to win. If I have a scum read and null player, I put us on a ticket. If the player is town and he plays to. win, he hammers if he finds either me or my scum read scummy, or he doesn't if he reads both of us town. Either way, he is required to play the game.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #13 (ISO) » Sat Jun 01, 2019 7:49 am

In post 9, TDC wrote:You are right, that's not what I was going for.

How about any three player group can suicide if two of them agree on it.

impossible to bring more than one scum down in a pairing and generally a super hard setup to play for town

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #14 (ISO) » Sat Jun 01, 2019 7:49 am

in a situation where you can get one trusted town leader who everyone will follow and everyone who doesn't is scumclaiming there's a decent bit of equity for town

but if that doesn't happen town is lolscrewed

callforjudgement · Post Post #15 (ISO) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:03 am

In general, pretty much any setup of this nature is much more townsided if you vote informally on what should happen in a day, and then leash people.

As such, it's typically hard to make this sort of mechanic work, because optimal play when the mechanic exists is typically to set things up so that it can't be used for its intended purpose.