[SETUP] Draconic Nightless

[TemporalLich]

Nightless Dragon Capturer, designed because we need a small micro setup for Marathon.

Capturing the Dragon is pretty much a public cop here, this setup likely has swing problems that can't be balanced out.

Draconic Nightless

8 players

1 Dragon

2 Mafia Goons

5 Vanilla Townies

There are no Night phases.

The Mafia are informed of the identity of the Dragon.

In addition to voting for eliminations, there is also a capture vote. Capturing is by plurality vote and is decided when the elimination is decided, though majority will lock in the vote.

A Capture vote can either use bold e.g.

CAPTURE: TemporalLich

or hurt tags e.g. HURT: TemporalLich

You can't vote to eliminate and Capture the same player. Voting No Capture is allowed.

Capturing a non-dragon renders them immune to elimination and capturing tomorrow. Capturing the Dragon provides benefits to the faction that had the deciding capture vote on the Dragon.

If Town captured the dragon, the deciding capture voter is confirmed to be Town aligned.

If Mafia captured the dragon, the Mafia gains a daykill to be used in the Mafia PT.

The Dragon loses if captured. The Dragon wins if eliminated or the Dragon evades capture until endgame.

Mafia win when they outnumber Town, or equal Town with the Dragon not alive.

Town win when the Mafia are dead.

Mafia may privately communicate at any time.

v1.1 update - Town only gets IC'ed from capturing the dragon since ICs in nightless are absurdly powerful

v1.2 update - A dragon self-capture no longer ends the game

v2.0 update - Added mith's idea, Mafiosi now know the identity of the Dragon

[NaCl]

Of course, this wouldn't be reasonable for an actual person, but what would stop the Dragon from publicly claiming and threatening to self-capture if put at Capture-1?

[TemporalLich]

Of course, this wouldn't be reasonable for an actual person, but what would stop the Dragon from publicly claiming and threatening to self-capture if put at Capture-1?

yeah... besides that being gamethrowing, the scorched earth from dragon self-capturing seems unfun.

I can write that out, but the Dragon should have no incentive to ever self-capture.

[NaCl]

Of course, this wouldn't be reasonable for an actual person, but what would stop the Dragon from publicly claiming and threatening to self-capture if put at Capture-1?

yeah... besides that being gamethrowing, the scorched earth from dragon self-capturing seems unfun.

I can write that out, but the Dragon should have no incentive to ever self-capture.

Yeah, I agree it's gamethrowing, but if it's a credible threat, no townie or mafia would put the dragon to C-2, because then they'd know that they'd also lose. Perhaps just removing the Dragon from the game and losing with no benefit to either side might be a better choice?

[TemporalLich]

Alright, a dragon self-capture results in no benefit now, the dragon still loses due to being captured

[mith]

If Town captured the dragon, the deciding capture voter is confirmed to be Town aligned.

If Mafia captured the dragon, the Mafia gains a daykill to be used in the Mafia PT.

Wouldn't this confirm the Mafia deciding vote to be scum? That's fine if the lynch happens to get them LyLo, they win with the daykill. But since they don't know who the dragon is, they can't plan around that. And having an IC in a nightless game with only two scum is brutal, so that's not a great option either.

Maybe if you made the Mafia Informed?

[TemporalLich]

If Town captured the dragon, the deciding capture voter is confirmed to be Town aligned.

If Mafia captured the dragon, the Mafia gains a daykill to be used in the Mafia PT.

Wouldn't this confirm the Mafia deciding vote to be scum? That's fine if the lynch happens to get them LyLo, they win with the daykill. But since they don't know who the dragon is, they can't plan around that. And having an IC in a nightless game with only two scum is brutal, so that's not a great option either.

Maybe if you made the Mafia Informed?

Part of the reason I reduced the town benefit to just the IC is Mafia also gets public copped from a dragon capture, though mod-confirmed scum is a bad thing.

Informed Mafiosi would indeed be an interesting idea... the dragon would be scummy which makes it more likely to be lynched

[popsofctown]

Way weirder than the other two but possibly a really good fit for marathon