[SETUP] Quack Doctors

[RadiantCowbells]

I still feel like that doesn't really end up in CC battles and it ends with a lot of "well ok its optimal to just lynch anyone who is confirmed quack doctor"

[FakeGod]

Do you mean cc battles like in dethy setups?

[RadiantCowbells]

i just want a situation where there's a confirmed quack doctor between a pair of people and one of them is yelling no YOU are the quack doctor. it is my goal for this setup

[FakeGod]

That could happen if 2 people were assigned to protect some guy and then he died anyway

They would both be claiming Quack Doctor

[FakeGod]

Oh, I see what you mean.

In order for that to happen, I'd change the setup so that 1 protect negates 1 kill, and publicize number of kills?

3 guys assigned to protect 1 person, but he died. They'd be trying to figure out who the Quack doctor amongst them is.

[RadiantCowbells]

Yeah, something like that.

[FakeGod]

You need two doctors healing the same target to save the patient. If one or both of them is a quack, then the heal fails.

I'll make the Nurse immune to kills to compensate.

Assuming perfect splits, we have 2 2 2, 2 - -, then 2 2 - , 2 - -, then 2 1 -, which is about 7 deaths? Which means town need to lynch maybe 3 mafia to secure their victory.

[chennisden]

No the nurse absolutely should be killable.

[chennisden]

There needs to be a means to remove the concentration of power if scum plays right.

[FakeGod]

Then how about I make the town quack doctor unkillable

[chennisden]

Yes, that would be kind of entertaining

I think 1 shot BP works better though

[chennisden]

Also keep in mind for balance:

In all practical cases there is no way town will ever agree to a plan and have everyone follow it.

[FakeGod]

One shot BP quack doctor sounds good

[chennisden]

I think the setup as written is very interesting and much more fair for scum than before

[Alisae]

i think it would be cool if the nurse had a random n0 inno

[FakeGod]

i think it would be cool if the nurse had a random n0 inno

Nah, I want the D1 lynch to go without Nurse having extra info.

[Alisae]

actually now that I think about it, hypoclaiming would make this setup harder for scum maybe?
/shrug

[FakeGod]

because you have so many doctors, nurse can claim without fear of immediate death

[FakeGod]

Hmm I think the last cycle should be single kill that is unknown

Otherwise the endgame looks silly

Thoughts?

Or maybe 1 unknowns and 2 known shots

[chennisden]

The problem is there is no real metric for what kills scum make.

Like in a normal game they will ostensibly shoot their threats

But here??

[FakeGod]

it's ok, the game is less about kill selection and more about the town trying to block the kills

kills can be generated via random for all I care

[FakeGod]

I cleaned up the rules, and made few small changes.

12 kills total, 8 saves possible maximum, and got rid of bulletproof quack doctor