[CHALLENGE] April Challenge

[northsidegal]

exactly one or at least one?

[TemporalLich]

exactly one or at least one?

You can add more then one, if you want.
You may kill them at the end of particular days. Any lover or bomber mechanics are also fine.

at least one if I'm right.

[Kerset]

does that count? the lynches themselves don't reveal information i think?

That's true, and the alternative lynch is supposed to replace the normal lynch for the day. I'll have to think of something else.

indeed

[Kerset]

@jingle it seems that in case of lylo you never get at least one "player, which was unvoteable on previous days"

[Kerset]

i added 'at least one' in first post

[ceejayvinoya]

Scarecrow

3 Mafia Goons

9 Vanilla Townies

1 Neutral Scarecrow

Every day phase, a Scarecrow can be lynched. It is given a random alignment (Town/Mafia).

Mafia knows the current alignment of the Scarecrow at all times.

Town wins if they successfully lynch Mafia three times. Lynching the Scarecrow while it is Mafia aligned counts as a Mafia lynch.

Mafia wins when all members of the town have been eliminated or nothing can prevent that from occurring.

[ceejayvinoya]

Uh on second thought, this has too many townies and they'll probably just lynch the scarecrow everyday until lylo.

[Alyssa The Lamb]

The Gladiator's Colosseum

4 Mafia Vanillas

9 Town Vanillas

At the beginning of the game, the mafia select three players. When day begins, all of these players will be gladiated, meaning the lynch can only occur within those three players. At least one member of the mafia must be included within this initial deployment.

Each day phase, a lynch occurs as normal.

During night phase:
If town was lynched, the lynched town and mafia each select one player to be gladiated in the lynched town's place.
If mafia was lynched, that mafia must select one player to be gladiated in their place.

There must be at least one mafia in the gladiator ring at all times, but otherwise there is no restrictions on who either alignment may choose to throw in the ring.

Town wins if all four mafia are lynched.
Mafia wins if every living player is gladiated and at least one mafia is alive.

I believe I caught all the breaking strategies, but let me know if I missed any.

If my calculations are correct, scum need to mislynch 4 town to win while town need to lynch 4 scum.

[Hectic]

Unsure if I'm understanding the setup correctly, Alyssa. If a townie is lynched day 1, they nominate someone to take their place, but the mafia also replace themselves with someone? So it's intended the replacement indicates that person was mafia? Also, do they both choose simultaneously?

In the event of a mafia lynch, the mafia replaces themselves with someone, and that person must be mafia if the other two are town, correct?

[Alyssa The Lamb]

I changed the wording slightly to hopefully clarify the first question better.

The second one, yes. If the mafia lynch leaves no mafia in the ring, they must place a mafia member in.

[Jingle]

@jingle it seems that in case of lylo you never get at least one "player, which was unvoteable on previous days"

You could have a lylo with a player who was previously unlynchable, but you could have a completely reused lynch pool by Day 4 (2 day one survivors 1 day 2 survivor.)

I’m going to guess that you mean the added slot must never have been lynch able, which is reasonable and means I need to come up with a new setup.

[popsofctown]

Crystal Rainbow

6 Townies

3 Vengeful Mafia

Each day before 50% of the deadline is reached, players must grow a crystal. The player chooses its color, and whether it is

townie

or

scummy

inside (town have little reason to choose the latter). There is

red

,

orange

,

yellow

,

green

,

blue

, and

violet

. Players can't grow crystals in a color they already have. Crystal color is public but crystal alignment is not.
Players cannot be lynched directly, but their crystals can be lynched. Lynching a crystal destroys it and reveals its alignment. When a

scummy

crystal is lynched all other crystals with the same owner are destroyed and the crystal's owner is lynched.
Crystal growth is mandatory, if a player forgets to grow a crystal, the mafia pick one matching that player's alignment to be grown.
Night zero and each night, instead of a kill, the mafia may choose a town player whose crystal grown that day will be hollow. Hollow crystals aren't counted towards win conditions. If they are lynched, it isn't shown that they were hollow, just

townie

.
The mafia wins when there is a

scummy

crystal of each color at the end of a night phase.
The town wins when there are two

townie

crystals of each color, owned by townies (townie crystals in mafia possession don't count for anyone, just like hollow crystals.) at the end of a night phase. Scum wins ties.

[popsofctown]

I tried really hard to balance but it is a difficult conceit to deliver and maybe a bad one? The hope is that you can see potential scumteams from the color choices. Possibly breakable

[Kerset]

"Nightless"
"Night zero and each night, the mafia may"

[popsofctown]

Fixed

[TemporalLich]

Wait, is it intended for a scum-aligned crystal flipping to be pretty much a scumclaim (though the townie who loses a scum-aligned crystal is out of the game anyway)? Town don't have a reason to grow a scum-aligned crystal besides WIFOM, and town don't benefit from causing WIFOM

[popsofctown]

Yes, if a scum aligned crystal is flipped, you know the controller is scum. The game would mostly devolve into lynching that player's crystals over and over once you have confirmation of that, which is why I specified that the player gets killed off, and vengefully takes one down with him for some balance.
Scum can sometimes create town crystals in hopes their town crystal will get lynched and that they will get treated as locktown for the rest of the game. But if they do this too often they will slow progress towards their wincon so much they may lose the race.

[popsofctown]

I reworded that part to make it a bit clearer too.

[Karnage]

Here's my entry:

Innocent Bystanders

3

Red Goons

3

Blue Goons

8

Vanilla Townies

1

Town Vengeful Cop

Pregame, each gang nominates a player to be part of the lynchpool. Players may only vote for those players Day 1.
Nomination process repeats each night.
If the gangs nominate the SAME player, one random goon from each scum team will be the lynchpool.
Each scum team has a factional night kill

A scum team wins when other scumteam is eliminated and you control 50% of the town.

Vengeful Cop can investigate a player each night getting a result of "town" or "antitown".
If the Vengeful Cop is killed (by lynch or NK), they can take a vengeful shot.

Town wins when all anti-town threats are eliminated.

[Jingle]

How does a tied endgame work? If mutual scumwin the setup is impossible for town.

[Karnage]

How does a tied endgame work? If mutual scumwin the setup is impossible for town.

For scum to win they would have to eliminate the other scum faction completely. I'll add something to that effect.

The thought is they they would be trying to nominate the other scum team for the lynch pool but inevitably townies (innocent bystanders) would be caught in the crossfire.

[Jingle]

I assume then that a 0x endgame would be a town win, since scum crosskilling three times is inevitable. That's... weird, but interesting.

[Jingle]

Crystal Rainbow

I may be misunderstanding, but wouldn't D1 be LYLO?

Day 1 each scum makes a different crystal color. If none of them are lynched, they each make a different crystal color D2 and win. If one of them IS lynched, anyone who made the same crystal color D1 is softcleared.

That means you functionally have to leash crystal colors D1 to all be the same color, meaning you can only lynch 1 scum per day.

Or is the intent that you only check winconditions at the end of the night?

[Something_Smart]

Can town players grow scummy crystals?

[Jingle]

I don’t think it really matters since there’s no incentive for town to do so.