[Setup] 9 and 2 [Edited]

[Blair]

Hi, Thingy!

Now I have to do some digging, because it's going to drive me crazy trying to figure out what series I was referring to.

There was like a Hydra event where I think maybe a couple of people from here might've joined up and played in that?

There is a high likelihood that I am thinking of that.

If I participated in a hydra on MU, it will have likely been with Phoenicks.

(This is an alt, don't you dare expose me)

[TheMainMan]

Hi, Thingy!

Now I have to do some digging, because it's going to drive me crazy trying to figure out what series I was referring to.

There was like a Hydra event where I think maybe a couple of people from here might've joined up and played in that?

There is a high likelihood that I am thinking of that.

If I participated in a hydra on MU, it will have likely been with Phoenicks.

(This is an alt, don't you dare expose me)

Ah, gotcha. Good to "see" you, been a while

[Quick]

Thor665 played in it, I believe.

[mith]

Just to be clear, mountainous is still a stupid name.

(The statistical evidence that town either under- or over-performs EV for a particular setup on this site is at best very weak. There aren't just a ton of open setups with calculable EV in the first place, and fewer still that have been run a significant number of times.)

[OkaPoka]

time to delete all the queues and only run mountainous until the data is obtained all shall suffer

[Blair]

Does no one else enjoy Mountainous?

[Isis]

OkaPoka plays/mods pretty vanilla stuff I think he's being a goober.

Mountainous is fine

It is a dumb name though

[Quick]

Does no one else enjoy Mountainous?

Not me. I hate it.

No, totally joking.

[Blair]

Yeah, I almost wonder if the name "Mountainous" is a self-fulfilling prophecy (climbing mountains is very hard, reportedly).

Perhaps a less intimidating topographical name would yield more optimistic town win-rates? I suggest "Featureless Plain."

[TemporalLich]

I mean why aren't "Vanilla" or "Basic" or even "Vanilla Normal" viable names for an all-vanilla Normal setup?

[Isis]

"Role Saneness"

[Isis]

You do want to be clear the setup isn't the one where a bastard mod gives every single player a vanilla town role PM.

[OkaPoka]

when I think of mountainous, I think of a working class setup

its the core of all mafia setups, everything else is bastardization of it and profits of the hard work that is mountainous and while these fancy theme games get the glory and glitz like the boogie setups they are, in the end it is the blood and sweat of mountainous that carries these games to make it enjoyable. if not for mountainous being what it is, game would be excessive and ultimately glamorous yes, but meaningless and insignificant.

when haters think of mountainous, they think of gulags

pure pain and no fun, nightplay is near nonexistent, there is absolute no flash. everybody is equal and the lack of unique roles makes everyone feel insignificant and small, no agency, nothing cool, just a stream of words and votes, who cares. there is no freedom, its just labor until death and the intellectuals are the first to go until it devolves into a war of attrition as people drag their heels through the slodge that are mountainous games that require 5 or 6 lynches to go through to finally just fucking end.

therefore mountainous should be renamed to "communist"

[OkaPoka]

Communist 13p

Setup:

2 Aristocrats

11 Proletariats

Mechanics: Daystart, Factional Nightkil
Suggested: Daytalk

Spoiler: role pms

Aristocrat

Welcome, [Player Name]. You are an Aristocrat, along with your partner, [Player Name].

Abilities:

Factional communication: During the night phase you may talk with your partner here [link].
Factional kill: Each night phase, one of you or your partner may perform the factional kill.
Win condition:
You win when all members of the proletariat have been eliminated or nothing can prevent this from occuring.
---

Proletariat

Welcome, [Player Name], you are a Proletariat.

Abilities:

Your weapon is your vote, you have no night actions.
Win condition:
You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

[Quick]

Town can No-Lynch at MiLo (or however you type that. Been away from Mafia for quite a while).

[Isis]

It starts on odds, it doesn't hit MyLo

[Quick]

It starts on odds, it doesn't hit MyLo

I goofed then.

[mith]

I mean why aren't "Vanilla" or "Basic" or even "Vanilla Normal" viable names for an all-vanilla Normal setup?

I've always called it just "Mafia" or "Vanilla Mafia". I still don't really understand why the M-word stuck.

[Isis]

If you cast a spell using only mountains, it's probably going to kill people and not do anything else interesting

[mith]

If you cast a spell using only mountains, it's probably going to kill people and not do anything else interesting

How too many people approach a game with no power roles:

[northsidegal]

personally, i really like the name "mountainous".

it's not an adjective you see used elsewhere very often.

[FakeGod]

Only mountainous setup I respect is 2 vs 15!

[gobbledygook]

I mean why aren't "Vanilla" or "Basic" or even "Vanilla Normal" viable names for an all-vanilla Normal setup?

I've always called it just "Mafia" or "Vanilla Mafia". I still don't really understand why the M-word stuck.

Dirty dirty m word

[Quick]

I mean why aren't "Vanilla" or "Basic" or even "Vanilla Normal" viable names for an all-vanilla Normal setup?

I've always called it just "Mafia" or "Vanilla Mafia". I still don't really understand why the M-word stuck.

Dirty dirty m word

Mother ******.

[Umlaut]

Just to be clear, mountainous is still a stupid name.

Hard agree with this. I've gotten used to it because it's the name people use, though.

If it really has been years since anyone ran a straight-up vanilla game with no special mechanics, and yet it's something folks actually want to play, I'd be happy to drop one into the queue myself. (Or say I'm interested in joining if someone else wants to run it.)