(This was originally for the August Challenge, but since we are well past August, I am putting it here.)
[SETUP] Wandering Flagbearers
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[SETUP] Wandering Flagbearers
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Currently my favorite role I've seen in a Normal.
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Feels pretty scumsided.
The chance of randomly hitting the flagbearers probably roughly cancels out, taking into account that the mafia goon will protect the daylights out of their partner and the town flagbearer will lurk to avoid being a high priority NK. Leaving a vanilla 7:2, with only the grid mechanic to help town's EV. And the grid seems to not be very helpful to town.
Either players can massclaim position each day (this forces the flagbearers to step orthogonally to not be outed), or they can only claim when a vanilla detects a flagbearer. I'm not sure which is better, but either way, a VT claiming they detected a flagbearer is just as likely to out the town flagbearer as it is to out the mafia one (maybe more, since there's a chance the mafia can claim each other's positions if the goon and the flagbearer can both determine they aren't next to the town flagbearer). And actually in the worst case the mafia flagbearer can always claim town flagbearer if outed, and they get two more shots at finding the town flagbearer. So it seems like this mechanic, too, will roughly balance out, and this just balances like 7:2 mountainous which is awful for town?
This mechanic seems like it might work better with a larger player count, so that people have more than a few nights to actually maneuver and use the grid to their advantage rather than stumbling blindly.It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!- Jake The Wolfie
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Vanilla players don't know their position in the grid, or if movement failed.Show"I'm sorry that you put asbestos in your coffee."
"All dictionaries aught to have one typo."
Here's some text to break up all the links in my sig.
Currently my favorite role I've seen in a Normal.
Get to know a Wolf- Something_Smart
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Something_Smart He/himSomewhat_Balanced
- Something_Smart
He/him- Somewhat_Balanced
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- Posts: 23124
- Joined: November 17, 2015
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- Location: Upstate New York
But the flagbearers do?
How does the grid help town at all, then?It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK! - Something_Smart
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