[SETUP] 8D3

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[SETUP] 8D3

Post Post #0 (ISO) » Fri Oct 16, 2020 3:54 am

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余命数か月ばかりの恋に点滴で扶養する患者達
被害者の甘い期待を弔い悔悟の機会を躊躇うドクター
所以など行方知らず未知の病巣に臥す患者達
発熱が死因 然れば早期に躊躇すべきだったと知る放火犯
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Fri Oct 16, 2020 3:57 am

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Click the link. Obviously this needs major changing, but......
余命数か月ばかりの恋に点滴で扶養する患者達
被害者の甘い期待を弔い悔悟の機会を躊躇うドクター
所以など行方知らず未知の病巣に臥す患者達
発熱が死因 然れば早期に躊躇すべきだったと知る放火犯
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:36 am

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There are a lot of rolecops but barely any cops even that godfather is included. It seems that GF is being added just to trigger guilty from RC. He is kind of true cop here, which determines both alignment and role. Especially that there is no cell with both RC and tracker, so tracker result always means guilty.

F2 G2 are insanely town sided.
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:00 am

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Most of these are scumsided, but a few of them are townsided as Kerset pointed out. E3 is probably the worst for scum. A1, A2, and E1 are godawful for town.

In general, a 10:3 game will be balanced by having approximately three confirmed townies. Investigative roles that can only guilty one scum are pretty weak in a game of this size, that includes tracker and rolecop as well as roleblocker.

Doctors and jailkeepers are good, but they're best when they actually have roles to protect. Just make sure follow-the-cop isn't possible (i.e. if you have a doctor + investigative, make sure scum have a counter such as 1-shot strongman or roleblocker).

Vig is strong; it's a least an IC, plus an extra execution for town if the vig can shoot twice or if it can shoot once and town can stop another kill with a doctor or jailkeeper.

If you want some advice on balancing the specific setups, I can help you with that. But, setups like this are usually not that popular, and I know that T-Bone has been moving to reduce the number of matrix-based open setups in rotation because they're not all that different from normals, so even if this setup were balanced it probably wouldn't see much play.
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:09 am

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I really think you'd enjoy putting a normal setup through NRG, Sirius
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 3:07 am

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IC reveal on D1 or on reveal?¿¿¿

Also, the setups with the 1-shot jani conter pretty hard the 1-shot jani, like, it'll be useless in E3 / F3 / F2 and it's not that good anyways

Anyways, as others said, i doubt this setup would be very interesting in the current site context
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