[SETUP] Cook's First Setup

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[SETUP] Cook's First Setup

Post Post #0 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2020 11:50 am

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Mafia Godfather

Mafia Goon

Town Vanilla Cop

Town Cop

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Cops do not know if they are Vanilla or Alignment-checking. Mafia know if they are Goon or Godfather.

Standard rules otherwise.

If you have suggestions for names please let me know.
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2020 1:50 pm

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What results would you suggest the cops get if they don't know whether they check for Vanilla or Alignment, because the standard to give the alignment cop is Mafia/Not Mafia, and the standard for Neapolitan is Vanilla/Not Vanilla.
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:19 pm

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Presumably

[Your target is Vanilla or Town]
[Your target is Not Vanilla or Mafia]
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:23 pm

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isn't Not Mafia a negative result for Cops?

so assuming Cop is Mafia/Not Mafia and VCop is Vanilla/Not Vanilla the results would look like this:

{playername}
is either Mafia or Vanilla (i.e. definitely not a town power role or the mafia godfather (godfathers investigate as "Not Mafia" to Cops))

{playername}
is either Not Mafia or Not Vanilla (i.e. definitely not a mafia goon)
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:28 pm

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I'm resolving this by making Cops get a positive (Mafia) or negative (Town) result, and the VC seeing positive (not vanilla) or negative (vanilla), thus making it insane. I think.
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:29 pm

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VCop getting Not Vanilla as the positive result would make it an insane VCop or something that would actually be called a "Power Role Cop" in a non-bastard game where the positive/negative distinction matters (like this one).

Yeah, my main problem with the setup is it's not clear what a positive versus a negative result is, and my assumption is to use Great Idea's definitions for the roles (namely, Cop is Mafia/Not Mafia as opposed to Town/Not Town like in Normal games).
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:39 pm

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If you're curious, here's what the results look like with a Bloodhound and a appears-Town godfather:

{playername}
is either Town or Vanilla (i.e. your result means nothing)

{playername}
is either Not Town or Not Vanilla (i.e. definitely not a vanilla townie)
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:20 pm

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I made a similar setup a while back.

I think making the Vanilla Cop and PR Cop improves the setup
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