[SETUP] Don't Follow the Cop

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[SETUP] Don't Follow the Cop

Post Post #0 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:37 pm

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2 Mafia Goons

1 Alignment Cop
1 Suicidal Vigilante/Doctor
7 VT


If the doctor ever targets the cop, the doctor will instead kill the cop, and then will commit suicide.
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2020 6:29 pm

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Is that what you mean by including vigilante/ in the roll name or is there more to that.
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:41 pm

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I don’t think Doctor uses here until Cop dies. Losing both PRs prematurely makes this into a 7:2 Vanilla Mountainous that scum likely wins, and a Doctor save does not mean much until it gets 2 of them. Assuming Strawberry Mafia is balanced, this is also townsided since it is that but with more town power and 1 less scum
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2020 6:42 am

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So what if I made the doctor compulsive?
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2020 10:23 am

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The Compulsive vig/doc will force the negative utility role until the cop dies, it would probably target who they think is scummy in practice to avoid hitting the Cop.
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2020 10:23 am

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But if you want to force the interaction then it would have to be Compulsive yeah
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:08 pm

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Disloyal Compulsive.
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2020 5:08 pm

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My suggestion for simplicity:

Don't Follow the Cop


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2 Mafia Goons

1 Town Frail Cop
1 Town Compulsive Doctor
7 VTs

  • Frail: If this role is targeted, it dies.


This is townsided as hell though, I'd do something like:

Donut Follow the Cop


12 Players

2 Mafia Goons
1 Frail Mafia Traitor Doctor

1 Town Frail Cop
1 Town Compulsive Doctor
7 VTs

  • Frail: If this role is targeted by any action, it dies.
  • Traitor follows Normal Guidelines.


Edit: If we're keeping it simple just bump it up to 13p and it should be fine?

Don't Follow the Cop


13 Players

3 Mafia Goons

1 Town Frail Cop
1 Town Compulsive Doctor
8 VTs

  • Frail: If this role is targeted, it dies.


Other option is 10p to account for double kill if cop is targeted

Don't Follow the Cop


10 Players

2 Mafia Goons

1 Town Frail Cop
1 Town Compulsive Doctor
6 VTs

  • Frail: If this role is targeted, it dies.


Regardless, those are my suggestions.

Edit: I think 10p looks most balanced on paper
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2020 5:22 pm

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Make the doctor indecisive to stop them spamming heal on one player
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Sun Dec 20, 2020 9:47 pm

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Really happy the modifier I invented in the GIM thread is getting featured here :]
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Sun Dec 20, 2020 10:08 pm

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In post 9, Gamma Emerald wrote:Really happy the modifier I invented in the GIM thread is getting featured here :]
Which one is that
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Sun Dec 20, 2020 10:15 pm

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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:51 pm

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In post 9, Gamma Emerald wrote:Really happy the modifier I invented in the GIM thread is getting featured here :]
I posted it before you but okay
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