[SETUP] Mountainous Vengeful

[Sirius9121]

Mountainous Vengeful

7 vengeful townies

and

2 mafia goons

Nightstart.
There is no voting in the day, but rather a phase where the players convince each other to not venge themselves in the event of their death.
if a Vengeful Townie gets venged they also get to venge.
Game ends if Mafia = Town

Spoiler: Example Game

Mafia: A and B
Town: C D E F and G

Night 0: They decide to kill player C
Day 1: After the discussion phase, player C is flipped as eliminated. They decide to venge player D.
Player D also is a vengeful townie and decides to eliminate player A. Since player A is a Mafia aligned player, the day ends.

Night 1: Mafia B decides to eliminate player E.
Day 2: After the discussion phase, player E is flipped and eliminated. They decide to venge player F.
Since player F is a townie and there is only G and B left, one of which is mafia, the mafia win immediately.

[Ythan]

/in

[MURDERCAT]

Did you calculate EV? I think this would be pretty fun. Town doesn't know that player C was killed night 0 correct?

[Sirius9121]

yes they dont know

whats EV tho

[MURDERCAT]

Expected town win rate based on random choices, e.g. https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... #7P:_5_-_2
I can do it later, I'm curious

[Sirius9121]

Thanks

[Cook]

/in

Perhaps flavor it as Chain Reaction Mafia or use it during Marathon.

Was that your intention?

[Sirius9121]

I do need the EVs but I was planning to run it as a Micro or something.

[MURDERCAT]

I ran a quick simulation and got 25% win rate for town for the 5:2 variant and 20% for the 7:3 variant. 6:2 is 35% which might be better?

It's also possible I messed up, I'm pretty tired haha.

[Sirius9121]

Well you might be right... how about 7/2?

[Gypyx]

thing is, town gets more exes, so that somewhat boosts EV

[Gypyx]

oh murder ran a simulation, forget what i said lol

[BBmolla]

I imagine this runs similar to Popcorn Mafia

[Sirius9121]

bump

[MURDERCAT]

7:2 is 43%, that could be a sweet spot
Putting this in a pastebin so I don't have to save it somewhere if you want more numbers: https://pastebin.com/raw/sn49MMwj

[Gypyx]

think the setup is probably more scumsided in practice right, given that scum chooses who's a vig and stuff

[MURDERCAT]

Hmm I'm not sure, I'd have to see how popcorn has done compared to EV. It's really a wifom game, because town knows that they were chosen.

[Sirius9121]

After my current Micro modding I am going to in to mod this as 7:2

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[Sirius9121]

now in micro queue pls sign up