The Five-Headed Monsters of The Village

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Post Post #0 (ISO) » Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:38 am

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10 players.

1
Mafia Goon

1
Mafia Rolecop

1
Town Tracker

1
Town Jailkeeper

6
Vanilla Townies


All players must /in to one of two specially-created hydras with 5 heads each. We shall refer to them as
Ebony
and
Ivory
for now.

No hydra PT is given but the Mafia member-heads get a PT.

Each individual head is PM'd their own role and has its own vote.

You may only communicate using the hydra itself. As a result, you could sign your posts as someone else.

You may not communicate using your head, however, you
must
cast your vote using your own account, without any additional communication in said post. You vote on heads to cut off as opposed to hydras to kill.
All votes must be naked votes.

Each hydra also controls one vote. This will likely get thrown around. A lot.

Each night action also targets heads versus bodies.
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:26 pm

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A similar idea was tried and I think it produced more apathy than anything else.

The idea of crowdsourced votes seems interesting but in practice probably just allows scum to anonymously quickhammer stuff.

As for the setup itself, including both tracker and jailkeeper is dangerous because if one mafia member dies, these roles both turn into cops. (JK is actually even stronger than a cop.)
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Fri Feb 19, 2021 2:06 pm

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The mechanic can be worked around by always casting a vote from your main (even if it's the player you're already voting for) immediately after making a post from the hydra account. It'd be like signing your post, but with a vote (that's unfakeable) rather than a signature.

As S_S mentions, Tracker + Jailkeeper is one of the most common broken combos to be included in a setup by accident. The roles don't do much with 2 scum alive and are both overpowered with 1 scum alive, so the game basically turns into a weird (and somewhat tedious) form of White Flag (a mechanic that doesn't really work in 8:2).
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Fri Feb 19, 2021 3:04 pm

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What if I change the maf pr to rb? still not enough?

I'm comfortable with any combo of NewD3.
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:28 pm

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Subject: Micro 727: Within Me
GuyInFreezer wrote:Mod comment: glad that this is over. This was painful in many many ways. If someone try to come up with a similar type of game, please link them this game.
Just following GuyInFreezer's wishes here (although the game was linked earlier). If a mod of a game tells us "please don't run anything like this again", it's probably worth listening to that.
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:51 pm

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Noted. Lock the thread?
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