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Post Post #25 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2021 2:24 pm

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Towns are very consistently beat mafia with EVs way way lower than 56% right now in nightless, I don't think that setup is very attuned to contemporary balance
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Post Post #26 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2021 5:48 pm

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In post 25, Isis wrote:Towns are very consistently beat mafia with EVs way way lower than 56% right now in nightless, I don't think that setup is very attuned to contemporary balance
assassin in the palace maybe?

although can that really classify as mafia
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Post Post #27 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2021 5:50 pm

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In post 26, lendunistus wrote:
In post 25, Isis wrote:Towns are very consistently beat mafia with EVs way way lower than 56% right now in nightless, I don't think that setup is very attuned to contemporary balance
assassin in the palace maybe?

although can that really classify as mafia
actually the optimal strategy for AITP involves zero discussion

so let's not put that in
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Post Post #28 (ISO) » Wed May 19, 2021 5:20 pm

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I added a setup
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Post Post #29 (ISO) » Tue Jun 01, 2021 2:42 am

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In post 28 I was referring to vengeful mountainous I believe. Deputy Cultists has now been added.
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Post Post #30 (ISO) » Wed Jun 02, 2021 1:57 am

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when testing out featured setups, maybe they could be given only 1-2 weeks to fill or something like that?

then once it's clear that there's demand for them, give them the normal time to fill

maybe have two different lists for featured setups: "in testing" setups that are given the 1-2 weeks to fill that I mentioned before and a regular list that would function like they do now
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Post Post #31 (ISO) » Wed Jun 02, 2021 2:06 am

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personally, I don't think that the featured setups thing is a good idea at all: the approved setups are already a solution that works for first time mods and the featured games just clog up the queue, delaying games that people would actually be interested in

just my opinion
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Post Post #32 (ISO) » Thu Jun 03, 2021 11:07 am

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I think Featured Setups should have their own queue, like the limited-time Blitz queue in the Mini Theme queue
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Post Post #33 (ISO) » Thu Jun 03, 2021 2:03 pm

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It currently has its own queue, essentially. What would you want to be different.
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Post Post #34 (ISO) » Thu Jun 03, 2021 2:07 pm

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In post 31, lendunistus wrote:personally, I don't think that the featured setups thing is a good idea at all: the approved setups are already a solution that works for first time mods and the featured games just clog up the queue, delaying games that people would actually be interested in

just my opinion
The fill rate of featured and unfeatured setups seems similar so far. If I was convinced by data that featured setups fill slower on average I would definitely discontinue them.
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Post Post #35 (ISO) » Thu Jun 03, 2021 3:16 pm

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When the Blitz queue is active it’s a third queue slot
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Post Post #36 (ISO) » Thu Jun 03, 2021 5:37 pm

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Ahh. I think 2 is the right number of slots, but it's not impossible 3 would be better.
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Post Post #37 (ISO) » Fri Jun 04, 2021 2:57 am

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There isn't any demand for Blitz games, so it shouldn't have its own queue unfortunately. Everyone seems to think there is a population of players who want to play Blitzs at a high rate (without being one of those players themselves). I tested trying increased Blitz demand in both the mini theme and open queues, and I had to beg people to participate both times.

If you happen to be a person who wants to see Blitz games though, be the change you want to see and mod them in literally any queue (except maybe newbie/normal).
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Post Post #38 (ISO) » Fri Jun 04, 2021 5:15 am

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well, there's owners market blitz in signups as an experiment for those that wanna test
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Post Post #39 (ISO) » Fri Jun 04, 2021 5:59 am

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I think blitz was only being used as a comparison
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Post Post #40 (ISO) » Fri Jun 04, 2021 9:10 am

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In post 39, Isis wrote:I think blitz was only being used as a comparison
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Post Post #41 (ISO) » Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:37 am

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I am going to make a wiki page for that exploder game so i can feature it, it seems alright and was very popular
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Post Post #42 (ISO) » Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:30 pm

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In post 213, Isis wrote:I am not removing Guardians of the Fortress from the Featured Open Setups list due to the attempt to run it being so soon after it was run previously (in addition to a marathon run). The moderator was aware of an associated risk of this lowering interest in the setup. Please PM or post in this thread if you think it's better interpreted as generalized disinterest in the setup. You can also use those venues if you'd like to opine that it would be better policy remove recently run setups from the Featured Open Setups list until they are more "due" to be played, as I'm of two minds about that point of policy and it would have direct bearing on Nightless Exploder Pandemonium.
It's worth noting that Guardians actually filled briefly, before losing two players. Certainly wouldn't call that lowered interest.
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Post Post #43 (ISO) » Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:31 pm

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I read into the act of pulling a lot, and didn't check where it was at. My working memory was short, I guess.
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Post Post #44 (ISO) » Sun Jun 20, 2021 5:12 am

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I already mentioned this to Isis privately, but just to have it publicly I concur with S_S that lowered interest wasn't severe and I pulled it more because I got sick than anything else.

The in/outing could be interpreted as scary, but I think contextually it makes more sense to chalk this up to a specific player's schedule/commitments rather than broader ambivalence.
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Post Post #45 (ISO) » Mon Oct 23, 2023 3:49 am

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Would it be possible for D6 to become an approved setup? It's simple enough for first-time mods to run and it would add some variety to the queue. I successfully ran this setup in 2021.
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