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Post Post #0 (ISO) » Mon Apr 26, 2021 12:57 pm

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This setup is for discussing the featured setups list and advocating for removal or additions for the list.

Advocacy can be based on balance, overall appeal, recent trends, and a setup being overdue or underdue for how recently it's been played.

Please be respectful, especially if someone is advocating for a very new setup they are associated with the be featured. This should be realistic and a common occurrence.

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"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Mon Apr 26, 2021 12:59 pm

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Trust Fall
Noughts and Crosses Mafia
Dayvig Deactivators
Popcorn Mafia
Guardians of the Fortress
Vengeful Mafia 7p

in particular.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:04 pm

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What do people think about Popcorn Mafia? It was popular in marathon queue which is why it was liste but I'm very open to an alternative. It sought to serve a role as a larger setup that felt distinct from a normal.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:08 pm

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wait

there's a marathon queue?
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:09 pm

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No there isn't my bad >_< I meant last marathon weekend

Once upon a time, in a legendary time, there was a blitz queue though.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Mon Apr 26, 2021 4:42 pm

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do deadlines reset each shot ? (popcorn)
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Tue Apr 27, 2021 2:19 am

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How often do you think the list will update?
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:50 am

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theoretically speaking, since these games have an expedited queue, i do wonder if there would be interest in casual blitz opens to kinda playtest novel opens
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:58 am

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playtest is probably the wrong word

but like to spam featured setups in a fast n casual environment
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Tue Apr 27, 2021 10:16 am

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i like popcorn mafia, i feel like it does require a fun playerlist to play in and more specifically, decent activity levels from everyone so nobody is holding up the fun. marathons are a way to sidestep that issue in a setup like this. but popcorn mafia, since its a setup where pretty much one person has agency at a time, it can get very boring very quickly for everyone else if the game isn't moving along/people are waiting on one person to post. or id imagine. and in a seemingly fast paced, not that strategic, but more instinctual setup, you really want the game momentum to keep going because if a game dies, it can't really be resurrected and this looks like a really boring setup to play if it slows down

i don't know what the criteria of a featured setup should be tho
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Tue Apr 27, 2021 6:48 pm

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Featured setup are setups that hopefully fill in just one week.

You can run blitz setups, but we're not opening up marathons to the open queue. If we did that again, it would be the micro queue/lilith I think.
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Tue Apr 27, 2021 7:01 pm

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yeah i was just wondering if there would be interest from the playerbase and listmods to somehow leverage a different style of queue filling where we could play a bunch of cool opens with fast queue times and maybe fast game times as well

somehow do something like semiblind setups where an open is kinda randed from a set list of cool looking opens based on how many people sign up, maybe have it so after each game you can ask to stay in the "lobby" and it gets opened up in case people want to swap in or swap out idk, not the point of this thread

the only setup that looks weird to me is noughts and crosses tbh because id imagine there could be some real difficult distributions for scum to play

edit: something like the game will always fire at x, game choice is based on number of people who sign up
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Wed Apr 28, 2021 3:05 am

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Is 'Noughts and Crosses Mafia' really a game of mafia? I feel skeptical about it.
I would advocate for Chromavalon to be added
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Wed Apr 28, 2021 3:46 am

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I don't actually want to a
Play noughts and crosses but some people seemed into it.

I could definitely add Chromavalon. Could someone make a wiki page for the setup? I think Chromavalon would be a likely fill.
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:07 am

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Sure, here it comes Chromavalon for you!
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:42 am

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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 1:44 am

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as I already said in the open queue thread

I object to popcorn mafia being in the list, not very suitable for a long game and better for marathons, could be dragged out in a long game
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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:06 pm

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why would popcorn mafia necessarily be longer?
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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Sat May 01, 2021 6:25 am

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In post 17, Gypyx wrote:why would popcorn mafia necessarily be longer?
I think the argument is that in a game where only one player actually has a vote to a certain extent, the motivation of everyone else, especially if they are not in any danger, dies off quite a bit. Its even more true if its a longer deadline. That type of a game probably is better served by a shorter deadline as it actually will force everyone to be active. If that one has a 10 day deadline people will just put it lower on their priority list, especially as if you are town and get targeted you dont die and suddenly have power.

Its not a bad setup and can be very interesting, but it does threaten to exacerbate certain aspects of games that are not as desirable. I think things like Nightless Vengeful Mayhem (is that still popular? People loved that around 2015) are similar but better.
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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Sat May 01, 2021 8:43 am

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I added chromavalon for a moment but had to remove it because the article was using "lynch". I will have to write it myself later.
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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Sun May 02, 2021 9:28 am

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It is a travesty that Grand Idea didn't make this list.
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Post Post #21 (ISO) » Sun May 02, 2021 11:20 am

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In post 20, Jake The Wolfie wrote:It is a travesty that Grand Idea didn't make this list.
deck of normal roles will solve that gap
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Post Post #22 (ISO) » Tue May 04, 2021 3:20 am

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also, more than half of these setups are micros

i have nothing against micros, but surely there are also better alternatives with more players?

although that could undermine the fact that these are meant to be games which should fill quickly
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Post Post #23 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2021 1:46 am

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It is intentional that it is mostly micros. I think there is underserved demand for open micros.

I'm interested in adding a 13er or two though
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Post Post #24 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2021 1:01 pm

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In post 23, Isis wrote:It is intentional that it is mostly micros. I think there is underserved demand for open micros.

I'm interested in adding a 13er or two though
Going to date myself with how long its been around... but this had some potential as a micro
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