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Dumb hydra mechanic
Dumb Idea when I got out of the shower: Mafia but instead of a nightkill, mafia merge 2 slots into 1 slot, and that slot gets the outcome that is worse for town. PR's get vanilla'ized if merged with a VT, town + mafia = the slot is mafia.- Ythan
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Has this really never been suggested before? I don't see any immediate issues."Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Town + Mafia making the slot Mafia has an inherent bastardness and balance problems as a player can start as town but end as mafia without knowing their alignment changed.
Also has balance issues as if you start with 10 town 3 scum then miselim 9 town 3 scum. Night kill becomes 8 and 4. Miselim 7 and 4. Nightkill 6 and 5. You’re at elo if you’re town in two days. It doesn’t make sense to do anything other than gain a new member.
Yes the slots are merged so there is still 3 scum slots but you have 6 town aligned people talking versus 5 mafia aligned. Huge balance shiftScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Probably would need a limit to town + mafia merges as it acts very similar to a cult.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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It has a huge impact because town works on cohesion.
Scum don’t have to convince anyone to do a elim, they have to just sow enough chaos.
When it’s 6 v 5 (but three slots) town have to correctly identify every other player who is town to get an elim. It’s essentially elo.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Yeah bastard per MS rules to change alignment btw might be balanced if done right but literal bastard. Two different kinds of bastard I guess.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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sure, i played in a open game where when you died you hydra'd with someone else (possibly scum) and it didn't feel bastard. but yeah.
i think the advantage of having more posters is heavily dependent on the plist. town would have to change their approach and be more independent with developing reads. good scum would be able to control the narrative much better but i'm not so sure how well average scum could use it. also a lot of times people use the excuse of being in a hydra to lurk
anyway this seems like a cool idea.- Dwlee99
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In practice in the game infinity referenced it actually ended up being pretty townsided because people would change when they became scum. Not sure that’s always the case, but definitely worth noting.
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viewtopic.php?f=83&t=87385In post 11, Bingle wrote:I’ll link when not mobile
Of course, major difference was that game scum didn’t have unilateral control of the merges.
It’s also worth noting that cops/other investigative effects become disproportionately powerful because if they’re merged with town they can still put their old results.
In fact, holding onto results becomes an even better idea because if you become scum you don’t want innos/guiltiest floating around.This is a Parachute. - Jingle
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