The Resistance - Game 1 (GAME OVER)

[zoraster]

I'm fine with the top 3.

[zoraster]

tbh we now have the high chance on possibly clearing 3 people. I'd rather not do this randomly.

Just because it succeeds doesn't mean those people are clear.

[zoraster]

I think either result is fine and would rather not discuss at this point optimal strategy for spies.

[zoraster]

tbh we now have the high chance on possibly clearing 3 people. I'd rather not do this randomly.

Just because it succeeds doesn't mean those people are clear.

zoraster is prob scum due to this post. afraid we might clear ppl

No, I'm just not an idiot, and I've played this game before.

[zoraster]

Well, I think we should just try and convince Coug and let him make the decision on his own.

worried we'll clear three townies?

Well, without me, that leaves only 4 townies. So chances on 3 of them being in there are smaller than me not being in there.

cephrir's pretty much a conf spy atm. Just ignore him

Look, dude. This game relies far more on deductive reasoning than Mafia. If you want to win as Resistance, then you need to quit with the randomly spewing of things. It makes it harder to get across the relevant information. Saying "conf scum" or "conf town" before we've even done a mission is counterproductive.

[zoraster]

Round 1

Attempt 1 Leader: StrangerCoug |Members: StrangerCoug animorpherv1 Cephrir

Name	Accept/Reject
StrangerCoug	ACCEPT
animorpherv1	ACCEPT
Cephrir	ACCEPT
shos	REJECT
Radja	ACCEPT
Iprobablysuck	REJECT
Aronis	REJECT
zoraster	ACCEPT

StrangerCoug animorpherv1 Cephrir

Card

SUCCESS

FAILURE

SUCCESS

So that I can track

[zoraster]

So we can identify at least one in the set of {SC, ani, Ceph} as spy, obviously.

[zoraster]

Me
Coug
zoraster

Are you that certain the scum is Cephrir?

[zoraster]

I rejected because I wanted to see more teams suggested by more people. I also wanted more time before our second mission.

[zoraster]

That was really a good team
only radja is scum there
and we need 2 "fail" for this to fail, not 1!

uh. isn't that just Round 4?

[zoraster]

I think including one of the past team is probably the right call. But I think Cephrir should pick Coug or ani instead of himself. With 3, picking yourself offers some clarity. With 4, I'd rather see Cephrir have to choose.

[zoraster]

I think including one of the past team is probably the right call. But I think Cephrir should pick Coug or ani instead of himself. With 3, picking yourself offers some clarity. With 4, I'd rather see Cephrir have to choose.

are you willing to lose a second base to find out which of them is scum? i don't think i am

I don't really have a reason to believe you're less likely to be scum, so from my perspective, it doesn't matter.

[zoraster]

In hindsight, picking a team that consisted of the next leaders was a pretty crummy thing to do. But I didn't catch that either.

[zoraster]

Zoraster, I am starting to doubt you

Why? I rejected precisely the same setup last time, just with ani suggesting himself instead of cephrir suggesting himself.

I'm more interested in the people who switched their votes.

[zoraster]

Switchers: Cephrir (makes sense) and Aronis

[zoraster]

on another note, both IPS and StrangerCoug rejected this team twice, along with Zoraster.

could you three explain your choice?

Why are you so eager for the team? Is there anything to say that you can't form exactly the same team this round? Except now I get to see which of the two you pick and I don't have to deal with someone from the failed team making the decision to put himself on the team.

[zoraster]

Because it has my townreads. You, me, radja as well now (earlier I thought it was 2 needed etc)... This helps me narrow it down 100% imo if it fails, which I think it doesn't.

Then suggest it again. Or suggest the ani one again. I'll accept. I just need you to choose which of those two you go with.

[zoraster]

zor did you update that overview?

yeah. i'll post when the round completes unless it provides clarity for some reason now.

[zoraster]

Round 1

Attempt 1 Leader: StrangerCoug |Members: StrangerCoug animorpherv1 Cephrir

Name	Accept/Reject
StrangerCoug	ACCEPT
animorpherv1	ACCEPT
Cephrir	ACCEPT
shos	REJECT
Radja	ACCEPT
Iprobablysuck	REJECT
Aronis	REJECT
zoraster	ACCEPT

StrangerCoug animorpherv1 Cephrir

Card

SUCCESS

FAILURE

SUCCESS

Round 2

Attempt 1 Leader: animorpherv1 |Members: animorpherv1 zoraster shos radja

Name	Accept/Reject
StrangerCoug	REJECT
animorpherv1	ACCEPT
Cephrir	REJECT
shos	ACCEPT
Radja	ACCEPT
Iprobablysuck	REJECT
Aronis	ACCEPT
zoraster	REJECT

Attempt 2 Leader: Cephrir |Members: Cephrir zoraster shos radja

Name	Accept/Reject
StrangerCoug	REJECT
animorpherv1	ACCEPT
Cephrir	ACCEPT
shos	ACCEPT
Radja	ACCEPT
Iprobablysuck	REJECT
Aronis	REJECT
zoraster	REJECT

Attempt 3 Leader: shos |Members: Cephrir zoraster shos radja

Name	Accept/Reject
StrangerCoug	REJECT
animorpherv1	ACCEPT
Cephrir	ACCEPT
shos	ACCEPT
Radja	ACCEPT
Iprobablysuck	REJECT
Aronis	REJECT
zoraster	ACCEPT

Card

FAILURE

SUCCESS

SUCCESS

SUCCESS

[zoraster]

They can't communicate, but sending in a success card wouldn't be a bad idea in Round 1. Still, I'm inclined to agree with the {aronis,IPS} set being one.

[zoraster]

So now is where we have to actually engage in some scum hunting. Do we believe Cephrir has essentially been framed? It's not unlikely but it's also possible he's the common link.

[zoraster]

Aronis voted against Cephrir twice. I'm not sure that makes sense if the team is Cephrir+Aronis+Someone else.

[zoraster]

SC, why did you vote to accept?

[zoraster]

How smart do we think Aronis is? Would he reject a double scum lineup and accept a single scum one?

[zoraster]

Should I just send in the same team?

lol

[zoraster]

SC, IPS, Aronis as scum possible with Radja just VIing?

[zoraster]

wait no. that's obviously not right

[zoraster]

SOMEone was scum in Round 2!

[zoraster]

SC, why did you vote to accept?

I didn't particularly like Ceph's reactions to the discussion about him being the person in common between the failed missions. He could have had at least a stronger case against the ones he was on the team with if he was town.

And you were so certain of your reads on everyone else that an acceptance was due and no more discussion needed even though the team was suggested last minute?

No... I don't think this is plausible.

[zoraster]

SC, IPS, Aronis as scum possible with Radja just VIing?

why sc over ani?

also i don't think aronis/ips can both be scum unless it's with me but i forget why

Only because ani was in the team so had SOME reason to accept the team. But as I said, this is not the correct team as someone was scum in Round 2.

[zoraster]

SC is scum. I think either Aronis OR Cephrir could be scum, but not both and it could be neither. shos and Radja seem equally as likely to me if Cephrir isn't.

I think IPS could be VI more than Aronis?

[zoraster]

Interesting! I'm glad that's rejected then

[zoraster]

My post that got p-edit blocked:

At some point I just need to guess here. I'm going to say scum team is SC, Aronis and Radja who simply made an error in not accepting his own thing. So that leaves

ani, cephrir, zor, shos, IPS to choose from. If I were IPS, I'd not send Cephrir and send myself. Not sure if that gets through, but...

[zoraster]

So his choice was similar to what I thought he should do. With SC voting Accept, I have to believe someone on that 4 person IPS lead team is scum (assuming SC scum, which... I have to make SOME assumptions).

[zoraster]

So ani... you think aronis is town?

[zoraster]

I'm willing to say scum group IPS, Aronis, Ani. Let me see if that fits.

[zoraster]

I'm willing to say scum group IPS, Aronis, Ani. Let me see if that fits.

that would mean town rejected round 2. Impossible

good point

[zoraster]

I don't know what the heck Aronis and IPS have been doing all game is the problem.

[zoraster]

IPS rejected EVERYTHING in round 2. Aronis, Ani, Radja?

[zoraster]

I'm not caught, but I am having to figure out who to send.

[zoraster]

Send: SC, Cephrir, shos, zor

No points needed for Radja. It was a weird choice that I'm going to treat as Null.

[zoraster]

Well, if SC is scum the game is over.

[zoraster]

I mean, presumably you'd call it. Not sure if CC would call it.

[zoraster]

I don't think shos is scum or he'd have accepted the one with himself in it in Attempt 3.

[zoraster]

good job, scum. The one but not both Day 1 pretty much did us in

[zoraster]

the funny thing is that if both had failed it, the game would have been pretty easy. but since only one did...

who was the person who voted succeed in Day 1?