SURVIVOR Marathon

For large social games such as Survivor where the primary mechanic is social interaction.
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Post Post #7 (isolation #0) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 1:13 pm

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Friday's a big no, I work early Saturday, sorry.
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Post Post #23 (isolation #1) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 8:18 am

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The appropriate score chart:

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A few sidenotes:

- Xof gets a 5 in the Hectic and GeorgeBailey TCs despite voting with the eliminated player because they told me that they knew about the vote but voted this way for jury management (much the same way you score someone for voting in fear of an idol).
- I scored the FTC as a 7-player jury because I didn't want to penalize the finalists for a juror not voting.
- Pants enters the FTC with the best record I've ever seen at
93.3
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Post Post #25 (isolation #2) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:50 am

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Actually, I messed up the Hectic vote. That should have been a stable vote. So everyone but Skelda should get a 4 and Skelda should have a three - I'll post the updated table on the bottom of the post.

In regards to the GerogeBailey vote, however, is where you're entirely incorrect. In order to determine whether a vote is stable or not you need to pass the Landslide Test AND the Pagong Test:

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and the votes are scored as such:

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However, this is a general guide - Survivor is a game that this system never has and never fully will be able to perfectly give you how to call EVERY scenario. Nothing can, and here's where the problem arrives. The GeorgeBailey vote is classified as a dynamic vote - it passes both tests. Intent
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until you get to calling scores that don't quite fit. So I either have to give xof a 2 and penalize her for strategically voting against the group, despite having the information that would allow them to vote in the majority or I have to give them a 5 and pay homage to the fact that xof was fully aware of the vote and who was leaving.

I can't give them a 3, they received no votes. Likewise, I can't give them a 4. The only option remaining is to go against the core of the system and call the vote stable, at which point why am I bothering with the system at all?
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Post Post #26 (isolation #3) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:51 am

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And the fixed table:

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Post Post #28 (isolation #4) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 11:03 am

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I can guarantee that I talked to xof about the GeorgeBailey and Hectic votes and they were jury management votes, not "I'm looking to eliminate skelda" votes. And this logic has been used in the past for when people split the vote due to idol fears despite knowing the target, so I'm using the same logic and applying it here.

I'll fully admit to not being Crazy and not being able to make the same calls he'd make, but I'm going off past judgement calls so future ones make sense.
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