Survivor: MLS GAME OVER!!! (Congrats Montreal!)

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Post Post #150  (ISO)  » Tue Apr 11, 2017 9:31 pm

In post 149, UpTooLate wrote:Oh look I agree with hiplop on something. :P

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Post Post #151  (ISO)  » Tue Apr 11, 2017 9:31 pm

In post 150, hiplop wrote:
In post 149, UpTooLate wrote:Oh look I agree with hiplop on something. :P

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Post Post #152  (ISO)  » Tue Apr 11, 2017 9:56 pm

#Kilbyopinions

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Post Post #153  (ISO)  » Tue Apr 11, 2017 9:56 pm

Also yes Shaco's speech was amazing.

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Post Post #154  (ISO)  » Tue Apr 11, 2017 10:39 pm

I didn't like it
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Post Post #155  (ISO)  » Tue Apr 11, 2017 10:41 pm

Well it's too bad your opinion didn't matter.

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Post Post #156  (ISO)  » Wed Apr 12, 2017 12:10 am

Shacos speech wasn't good you just already liked him so you liked the speech. To people who felt shaco didn't do anything which was his major critique it was a bad move. he didn't get 4/8 votes and was one amumu vote away from losing which isn't saying much about precision when mumu was a wild card. Pls don't make that the meta tyia

(Yeah blablabla I'm now happy shaco won bc he was a beautiful soul and I like it looking back but you conf bias all the actions of the ppl you already like to be positive kween ur a cog in the machinery of social psych 101 don't let the hypnotoad get you lulus ftc performance was distant and cold none of the finalists that game gave stellar ftc performances)
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Post Post #157  (ISO)  » Wed Apr 12, 2017 1:00 am

In post 156, MattP wrote:Shacos speech wasn't good you just already liked him so you liked the speech. To people who felt shaco didn't do anything which was his major critique it was a bad move. he didn't get 4/8 votes and was one amumu vote away from losing which isn't saying much about precision when mumu was a wild card. Pls don't make that the meta tyia

(Yeah blablabla I'm now happy shaco won bc he was a beautiful soul and I like it looking back but you conf bias all the actions of the ppl you already like to be positive kween ur a cog in the machinery of social psych 101 don't let the hypnotoad get you lulus ftc performance was distant and cold none of the finalists that game gave stellar ftc performances)

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Post Post #158  (ISO)  » Wed Apr 12, 2017 1:39 am

He knew he already had those 4 votes and played well not to lose them, but Amumu being a fucko and casting the only vote for Garen played a huge part there
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Post Post #159  (ISO)  » Wed Apr 12, 2017 7:09 am

In post 158, CuddlyCaucasian wrote:He knew he already had those 4 votes and played well not to lose them, but Amumu being a fucko and casting the only vote for Garen played a huge part there


Basically this.

Shaco's speech was amazing because it was in line with his character and put him in a position to secure Malphite's vote during questioning. Most of the time and for most players, that's not a good speech, but understanding context is important.

Which is honestly something most MS finalists suck at as they write novels that nobody wants to read.

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Post Post #160  (ISO)  » Wed Apr 12, 2017 8:14 am

Did someone link the MLS forum yet and I missed it or has it not been posted yet?

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Post Post #161  (ISO)  » Wed Apr 12, 2017 9:42 am

In post 160, mallowgeno wrote:Did someone link the MLS forum yet and I missed it or has it not been posted yet?

idk if anybody posted it yet or not, so here it is:
http://s15.zetaboards.com/Survivor_MLS/index/
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Post Post #162  (ISO)  » Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:15 am

Thanks!

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Post Post #163  (ISO)  » Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:27 am

obligatory I think both my speeches really helped, etc
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Post Post #164  (ISO)  » Wed Apr 12, 2017 11:50 am

I think Montreal's speech, especially compared to Seattle's speech, helped make it unanimous, but I think Montreal probably wins as long as they weren't actively terrible. They definitely were more favored going in, though I think Seattle had a couple likely votes like Portland that they lost.

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Post Post #165  (ISO)  » Wed Apr 12, 2017 11:57 am

Also paragraph breaks are your friend guys. That's the biggest problem I have with the part of the speech that Vijarada quoted. Also wordiness without saying more than could have been conveyed in fewer words. Debtor's quote arrives somewhere, it does feel like people are making long speeches out of obligation rather than because their game needs that many words.

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Post Post #166  (ISO)  » Wed Apr 12, 2017 1:58 pm

I think my issue with closing statements lately is that there aren't enough gay euphemisms in them.

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Post Post #167  (ISO)  » Wed Apr 12, 2017 2:02 pm

Seattle had at least five people leaning his way when FTC started according to confessionals. NYCFC had a great confessional actually, he kept posting there instead of jury threads which is dawh. (make him play again) The cheating was a silver bullet, if he hadn't done that Seattle could have won because people liked him better as a person. You can't be the feelgood choice with that hanging over your head. It's hard to say though. Hiplop really killed it from the start.
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Post Post #168  (ISO)  » Wed Apr 12, 2017 4:13 pm

Hiplop covered all the angles i had wanted to attack Montreal on in the opening speech.
I'm not sure if it was then i read Seattle's saw the cheating and it wiped mind from the good playing I had seen from Seattle though.
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Post Post #169  (ISO)  » Wed Apr 12, 2017 4:23 pm

5 people would have been enough for Seattle to win right? That's pretty wild. Who would have been the five votes? I felt like I was always leaning Montreal, but he could have lost me.

But yeah, the cheating thing was really the end of whatever chance Seattle had.

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Post Post #170  (ISO)  » Wed Apr 12, 2017 5:39 pm

Real Salt Lake, Sporting Kansas, NYCFC, DC and the Portland Timbres all started off leaning in Seattle's direction. NYRB probably would have started that way if not for the Thing as well. You and Columbus were leaning pretty hard in Monty's direction. Houston didn't seem to have a preference at first. Toronto was absent lol.

I think Montreal would have won over enough votes to win just on the strength of performance and saying what people wanted to hear.
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Post Post #171  (ISO)  » Wed Apr 12, 2017 6:29 pm

Yeah this is probs a bad game to say opening speeches are useless bc the ftc here 100% changed the outcome.

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Post Post #172  (ISO)  » Wed Apr 12, 2017 6:47 pm

the finalists should have to write one 500 word statement where they each take turns adding one word to it at a time
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Post Post #173  (ISO)  » Thu May 11, 2017 3:59 pm

Hey, I'm doing the wiki entry for this game and I don't know what exact calculations y'all used for team scores. If one of you kind benevolent mods could post them it'd be appreciated. KingdomAces didn't finish his team score list in the spec forum.
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Post Post #174  (ISO)  » Thu May 11, 2017 5:36 pm

Ugh that's a lot of effort.

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