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Post Post #250 (ISO) » Sun Oct 10, 2021 3:15 pm

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YES I'M STILL IN THE TOP FIFTEEN
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Post Post #251 (ISO) » Sun Oct 10, 2021 3:18 pm

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Im the only premerge to go up :3
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Post Post #252 (ISO) » Sun Oct 10, 2021 3:21 pm

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Proud of you <3
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Post Post #253 (ISO) » Sun Oct 10, 2021 4:16 pm

Post by Mist7676 »

FUCK
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Post Post #254 (ISO) » Sun Oct 10, 2021 5:13 pm

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hey that's me!
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Post Post #255 (ISO) » Sun Oct 10, 2021 11:37 pm

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Post Post #256 (ISO) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:29 am

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how do i get to final elim before merge and go down in elo
is base elo seen as getting to merge?
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Post Post #257 (ISO) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:33 am

Post by VashtaNeurotic »

In post 256, Korina wrote:how do i get to final elim before merge and go down in elo
is base elo seen as getting to merge?
So Elo is based on expected placement vs actual placement iirc, if you rank all of the elos, the 1200s come in a tie for 12th place. You came in joint 13th which is below that expected placement, so you lost Elo. Note that technically the math is more complicated than that (even if last place is the lowest they'll still lose elo) but that's a good rule of thumb. It's why someone with say a 1400 elo would lose points if they got 7th place but a 1300 would gain.
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Post Post #258 (ISO) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 10:26 am

Post by Haschel Cedricson »

Doesn't it also depend on the ELO of other people in the game?
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Post Post #259 (ISO) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 10:47 am

Post by VashtaNeurotic »

In post 258, Haschel Cedricson wrote:Doesn't it also depend on the ELO of other people in the game?
I mean yes, the calculation technically uses the average of all the other ELOs that aren't yours in the game, combined with your placement to determine how much you should lose/gain (you can see the exact formula by clicking on any value in the elo-post column). I just prefer the ranking idea cause it's easier for me to wrap my head around if I'm the 6th highest rated player, and I do better than 6th, I should go up, if I do worse, I should go down, even though there are more factors like how big a difference my Elo is from the other people at play.
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Post Post #260 (ISO) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 11:39 am

Post by VashtaNeurotic »

Decided I may as well post the formula here. The K is just the k-value, the higher the k-value the more volatile the change.

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Post Post #261 (ISO) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:17 pm

Post by Noraa »

do you count up backwards or forwards for max placement?
like for example me. would it be 1 or 23
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Post Post #262 (ISO) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:20 pm

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Max placement is just the number of player slots in the game, so for you that fraction was 23/23 = 1, the most anyone could gain is their k-value (usually 15) times the # of players in the game - 1 (though with the elo term that's technically an over estimate).
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Post Post #263 (ISO) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:33 pm

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wouldn't it be 22/22 :0
er were there 24 players? idr tbh
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Post Post #264 (ISO) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:34 pm

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20/20 actually, there were 21 player slots....
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Post Post #265 (ISO) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 5:36 pm

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oh @_@
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Post Post #266 (ISO) » Mon Dec 20, 2021 5:25 am

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Another game more ELO updates
Link to Sheets: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... 1118280165

Changes for the Survivor: Three Houses:
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*ambic would be in 14th place but is in the provisional section
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Post Post #267 (ISO) » Tue Dec 21, 2021 6:23 am

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Gotta get my Elo higher :p
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Post Post #268 (ISO) » Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:47 pm

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oH NO MY ELO...
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Post Post #269 (ISO) » Sat Dec 25, 2021 3:08 pm

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In post 268, Mist7676 wrote:oH NO MY ELO...
My ELO now :)
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Post Post #270 (ISO) » Sat Dec 25, 2021 3:54 pm

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Give it back D:
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Post Post #271 (ISO) » Sat Dec 25, 2021 3:56 pm

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Post Post #272 (ISO) » Sat Dec 25, 2021 4:23 pm

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I am dying to know what my ELO would be without flimflam :D
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Post Post #273 (ISO) » Sat Dec 25, 2021 5:14 pm

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my elo would be like 901 if not for maat and hathor <3
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Post Post #274 (ISO) » Sat Dec 25, 2021 9:44 pm

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In post 272, Malkon05 wrote:I am dying to know what my ELO would be without flimflam :D
Probably somewhere near where it was beforehand.

Edit: this comment was based on a wrong assumption that you'd played another game between flimflam and then winning a game.
So probably losing points for coming in 5th.
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