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Post Post #1150  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:31 pm

In post 1146, xRECKONERx wrote:I mean it's literally the same challenge they've done in the show


The issue is on the show it's a lot harder for a lot of reasons, among which are sleep deprivation, dehydration, and hunger.

Take those out and it's a lot easier

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Post Post #1151  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:35 pm

In post 1131, Thestatusquo wrote:
In post 1130, Mina wrote:A huge thank you to Will, Brock, Ryan, Jason, and Cody for the amazing job you did on hosting and production. You put in so much effort and suffered through so much stress, but the result was fantastic.

One of these people put in significantly less effort than the others. :P

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Post Post #1152  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:37 pm

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Post Post #1153  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:39 pm

Jigsaw would have been fine with individual tables and 200 pieces, assigning subgroups would have been cool too. I liked the addition of the knot tying. I also would have saved it for a bit later.

Grappling Hooks was great. would bring those back for sure.

Eating could be improved with allowing team representatives to avoid things like the vegetarian issue. could also do eating challenges that aren't gross, such as eating heads of lettuce, perhaps on a timer. otherwise, durian and hot peppers are good ideas, or things like jellybeans, a totally normal bowl of oatmeal, etc. (these guys have so many eating challenge type things if you really need ideas)
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Post Post #1154  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:39 pm

In post 1148, BROseidon wrote:Tribal puzzle challenge also could have been better with having designated tiers, untiers, and puzzle-doers (plus a smaller puzzle). As it was designed, Xalxe and I were able to have a stupidly large impact by being good at all parts of the challenge.

Uh hello I did all parts
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Post Post #1155  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:43 pm

Did you help with tying? I thought that was me/Xalxe.

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Post Post #1156  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:44 pm

In post 1150, BROseidon wrote:
In post 1146, xRECKONERx wrote:I mean it's literally the same challenge they've done in the show


The issue is on the show it's a lot harder for a lot of reasons, among which are sleep deprivation, dehydration, and hunger.

Take those out and it's a lot easier

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Post Post #1157  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:48 pm

I was absolutely involved with tying, kindly do not remove me from the edit any more than I already was!

I did not help with untying though.
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Post Post #1158  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:04 pm

The other thing with the way that challenge was designed is that because of the size of the puzzle, the tying and untying parts weren't really that important. No matter how the bag was tied, it didn't amount to more than a 30 second-2 minute advantage at the most in the challenge. In a 45 minute challenge, that's not very much at all.
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Post Post #1159  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:07 pm

In post 1157, Xalxe wrote:I was absolutely involved with tying, kindly do not remove me from the edit any more than I already was!

I did not help with untying though.

Mixed up tying and untying. U def did the tying and rocked that.

Trying to get the rope though that hole was one of the more tense parts of any challenge. Very cool

Pedit- yea basically nthe puzzle shoulda been easier. Lotta problems sort themselves out
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Post Post #1160  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:11 pm

alright my dudes.

much love to everybody involved, definitely a quality group of people involved. thanks to everybody who ran everything, good shit.

looking forward to hopefully being able to do this again in the future.
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Post Post #1161  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:12 pm

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Post Post #1162  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:13 pm

In post 1130, Mina wrote:A huge thank you to Will, Brock, Ryan, Jason, and Cody for the amazing job you did on hosting and production. You put in so much effort and suffered through so much stress, but the result was fantastic. I was constantly impressed by every challenge, and I had way more fun than I expected. I'm really excited to see the episodes!

This was a great cast, and I hope to see you all again.


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Post Post #1163  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:16 pm

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Post Post #1164  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:20 pm

Monty tried one like that on the couch Zor, it looked pretty difficult
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Post Post #1165  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:29 pm

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Post Post #1166  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:37 pm

In post 1164, hiplop wrote:Monty tried one like that on the couch Zor, it looked pretty difficult


Underrated moment, IMO. I was losing my shit

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Post Post #1167  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:40 pm

monty losing his shit at everything was also an underrated moment(s).
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Post Post #1168  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:48 pm

my favorite challenge was definitely the stacking challenge.
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Post Post #1169  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:48 pm

In post 1167, Thestatusquo wrote:monty losing his shit at everything was also an underrated moment(s).


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Post Post #1170  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:07 pm

Favorite challenges were Idol Hands (not just because I told my tribe about the toss and swipe method which Shea used to amazing effect), Water Relay and the Charades challenge. My main suggestion for the charades challenge is to remove the subjectivity that caused the results to leave everyone feeling salty. Namely, don't worry about starting at the same time as much (just standardize whether people can be next to the hat initially, and compare stop watch times instead) and DEFINITELY just go with the film in the first place. It would be fine to have judges to call out penalties so people stopped increasing the penalties on themselves, but the final tally of infractions should have been from the film in the first place. Having different judges almost guaranteed that there would be subjective application of penalties.

I think in general it would've been cool to have more relays that involved 1v1s to score points for your team. Idol hands is a great style of challenge imo. If we could add in some sort of obstacle course (nothing too crazy) that involved going over and under things that would be really cool.

I echo the sentiments that the puzzle challenge wouldve been better with slightly smaller puzzles, or assigned roles. Also I think it would've been vastly improved if we'd thought to separate the tables first. Oh well. In general I think more challenges should have designated members for different sections as it adds to the pressure and makes the whole thing more dynamic. I also think more challenges should have multiple legs, i.e. the water relay could've had a puzzle once the bucket was filled. Definitely also agree that there should be more physical challenges. Like yes, we're all nerdy, but I don't think it can be called survivor if the physical threats aren't in some way actually physical threats.

I really liked gross eating. While it may have been unfair to Shea I don't think the mods anticipated that, and they also couldn't have known who was in the challenge when they drew it up. Although it was unfair, I think it was in the spirit of surivivor. If for whatever reason you cant do a challenge, you lose that challenge. its shitty that you have to choose between game and morals but i truly believe that is in the spirit of the game. Morals vs Game is like one the most prominent themes of the show.
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Post Post #1171  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:09 pm

Shea, please don't kill me for saying that. I respect your opinion and disagree but don't feel like its worth debating.
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Post Post #1172  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:14 pm

In post 1151, DeathNote wrote:Was it me? It was me wasn't it.

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Post Post #1173  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:18 pm

Rules of the game defines the morals within the game. This is why I can punch you in the face if we're boxing but not if we're playing checkers. The rules of survivor are such that backstabbing et al are baked into the game you are playing. Again, I am morally opposed to punching people in the face, but I have no problem doing so when I'm boxing.

on the other hand, my decision to not eat meat is a moral decision that transcends the rules of the game. Eating meat is not made substantively different in terms of its global environmental impact because it happens during a game of survivor. So, while it may be a thing that happens within survivor and is therefore "fair game" I am making a prescriptive argument, not a descriptive argument. I am not arguing that it is not a thing that happens in survivor, I am arguing that it ought not to happen in our games of survivor, because it is substantively different in terms of how it fits into peoples world view. I have no problem betraying people in a game of survivor because that is what the game of survivor is about. It is therefore not immoral to do so. But making it part of the game does not change my feelings on out of game morality. If I backstab someone in a game of survivor they are not backstabbed out of the game. If I eat meat in the game not only will I still have eaten meat outside of the game, but also I will probably get very fucking sick because I haven't eaten meat in 2 years and my body is no longer used to it. There is no reason to have this challenge besides "well, its a thing that sometimes happens." but there have been plenty of seasons without an equivalent challenge, its not like its not survivor without it. That means it is a conscious choice to alienate vegetarian players when you could....just....not do that? Additionally, as I already mentioned, even if you insist there has to be a gross food challenge (which, again, not true) it can easily be done vegetarian.
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Post Post #1174  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:22 pm

I think in general it would've been cool to have more relays that involved 1v1s to score points for your team. Idol hands is a great style of challenge imo. If we could add in some sort of obstacle course (nothing too crazy) that involved going over and under things that would be really cool.


Second this. There was only the idol hands for team challenges that you competed one on one (and I guess sort of the water bucket one?)
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