In post 1173, Thestatusquo wrote:Rules of the game defines the morals within the game. This is why I can punch you in the face if we're boxing but not if we're playing checkers. The rules of survivor are such that backstabbing et al are baked into the game you are playing. Again, I am morally opposed to punching people in the face, but I have no problem doing so when I'm boxing.
on the other hand, my decision to not eat meat is a moral decision that transcends the rules of the game. Eating meat is not made substantively different in terms of its global environmental impact because it happens during a game of survivor. So, while it may be a thing that happens within survivor and is therefore "fair game" I am making a prescriptive argument, not a descriptive argument. I am not arguing that it is not a thing that happens in survivor, I am arguing that it ought not to happen in our games of survivor, because it is substantively different in terms of how it fits into peoples world view. I have no problem betraying people in a game of survivor because that is what the game of survivor is about. It is therefore not immoral to do so. But making it part of the game does not change my feelings on out of game morality. If I backstab someone in a game of survivor they are not backstabbed out of the game. If I eat meat in the game not only will I still have eaten meat outside of the game, but also I will probably get very fucking sick because I haven't eaten meat in 2 years and my body is no longer used to it. There is no reason to have this challenge besides "well, its a thing that sometimes happens." but there have been plenty of seasons without an equivalent challenge, its not like its not survivor without it. That means it is a conscious choice to alienate vegetarian players when you could....just....not do that? Additionally, as I already mentioned, even if you insist there has to be a gross food challenge (which, again, not true) it can easily be done vegetarian.
Mhmm. As I said I respect your opinion and won't debate you on it. I'm sure I'd have a different perspective if this was something that impacted me. Easy for me to look at it as I do from my position.
Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:30 am
by hiplop
also idol hands definitely should have been a couple rounds
Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:32 am
by xofelf
It did suck that Shea had to drop for that challenge, but kudos to sticking to it anyways. That's not the easiest choice and I respect the hell out of it.
As much as oh god my feet fell asleep, I loved the redemple temple challenge and would love for that kind of thing to make a return. Even though they're hard to schedule for, endurance things are great. Balancing things were also great challenges.
Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:43 am
by hiplop
just throw endurance challenges as the last round of a given night and set up camera on tripod, production doesnt even need to be there
Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:46 am
by hiplop
also highlight of the meet was chickfila
Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:47 am
by zoraster
are the elo ratings being updated with this?
Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:48 am
by hiplop
those are only for anonymous games (as they should be, honestly, though i would love to be #1 )
Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:49 am
by Cephrir
what they should really be is nonexistant
Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:52 am
by Vijarada
well the thread is in the completed games subforum and they werent updated for civ iirc so wish granted ceph?
Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:55 am
by hiplop
it was updated for civ
Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:56 am
by Xalxe
In post 1183, Vijarada wrote:well the thread is in the completed games subforum and they werent updated for civ iirc so wish granted ceph?
In post 1178, hiplop wrote:just throw endurance challenges as the last round of a given night and set up camera on tripod, production doesnt even need to be there
I ain't holding shit
Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:34 am
by Thestatusquo
Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:36 am
by xRECKONERx
In post 1189, Elias_the_thief wrote:Also, aren't crickets like extremely low env impact compared to literally any form of mass produced meat product?
well if it wasn't the crickets then it would've been the sardines
Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:37 am
by Sephiroth
That is a fair point.
Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:44 am
by Elias_the_thief
Oh yeah, seph is my alt. In case anyone was wondering. Don't worry its already been outed in the past =)
Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:48 am
by zoraster
my question is how does everyone know how to tie bandanas on their head so they don't fall off? Is this a skill everyone learned at some point in their life but me? Was there a tutorial at the beginning?
Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:50 am
by Elias_the_thief
Well we had tube buffs so we were kind of cheating.
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