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Post Post #25 (ISO) » Fri Feb 02, 2018 6:18 am

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I feel like mine was Mundo because ingot voted out because of a dumb partner twist where you couldn't talk about it
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Post Post #26 (ISO) » Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:36 am

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MUTINY IDOLS
THAT THEN GIVE YOU REAL IDOLS
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Post Post #27 (ISO) » Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:06 am

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In post 19, Cephrir wrote:Poison Ivy 2.0. Nothing quite like a tribe designed specifically to kill you.
Tribe designed by the person we voted out Round 1 that came back from the dead wanting to kill me Hannibal-style!
That I didn't want to vote out in the first place.

Even funnier that you survived the Death Tribe B since she hated you more. >.>
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Kel-Thuzad had it worst in my opinion because his tribe was told they were voting him into Exile which usually implies 1: You will be alone 2: Maybe you'll get something cool! Instead he was sent to a 3 person tribe on a separate forum, after they'd voted someone out meaning they were united and he was a free elimination. The 'balance analysis' for tribe sizes pre-game assumed this person would be voted out. Extra funny because the next round there was a tribe swap and Drench was sent into exile and got an idol. :V
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Post Post #28 (ISO) » Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:11 am

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In post 27, Shadoweh wrote:Kel-Thuzad had it worst in my opinion because his tribe was told they were voting him into Exile which usually implies 1: You will be alone 2: Maybe you'll get something cool! Instead he was sent to a 3 person tribe on a separate forum, after they'd voted someone out meaning they were united and he was a free elimination. The 'balance analysis' for tribe sizes pre-game assumed this person would be voted out. Extra funny because the next round there was a tribe swap and Drench was sent into exile and got an idol. :V
this. i truthfully think its one of the worse design choices ever
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Post Post #29 (ISO) » Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:28 am

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In post 26, Papa Zito wrote:MUTINY IDOLS
THAT THEN GIVE YOU REAL IDOLS
BUT DON'T TELL YOU THAT
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Post Post #30 (ISO) » Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:29 am

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In post 27, Shadoweh wrote:The 'balance analysis' for tribe sizes pre-game assumed this person would be voted out.
Uhh I don't think this is true though.
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Post Post #31 (ISO) » Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:32 am

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I definitely did some math around Kel'Thuzad being less fucked than people assumed.
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Post Post #32 (ISO) » Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:33 am

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That said yeah maybe we could have indicated that getting voted there was bad
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Post Post #33 (ISO) » Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:33 am

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I too remember the toxic cesspit that was the Nexus spec forums
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Post Post #34 (ISO) » Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:42 am

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In post 29, xRECKONERx wrote:
In post 26, Papa Zito wrote:MUTINY IDOLS
THAT THEN GIVE YOU REAL IDOLS
BUT DON'T TELL YOU THAT
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Post Post #35 (ISO) » Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:13 pm

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Kel was pretty screwed when he probably thought he was getting something good.
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Post Post #36 (ISO) » Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:41 pm

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from my understanding as a player, we were voting someone into exile within a game that had already been split into two, so the idea was there that they could go to the other side.

also that tribe could've just won immunity? i don't know how easy it was to Frankie Grande that challenge though
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Post Post #37 (ISO) » Sat Feb 03, 2018 10:35 am

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I think Kel'thuzad had it the worst also that I remember. Even if some people thought there was a chance that he might be eliminated, some of his voters did not.

The challenge that he was eliminated on also wasn't one that he could win himself since it was negotiation between the other tribes and his tribe had a massive incentive to throw it and claim the personal reward.
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Post Post #38 (ISO) » Sat Feb 03, 2018 10:41 am

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I also think many people have been swap-screwed without twists where there wasn't necessarily a path out, like Brenda in Medevac comes to mind. Obviously Alexis would come the next round and flip that around which makes it seem like Brenda theoretically could have as well, however with Alexis guaranteed to come in and with the amount of time she had I personally doubt that most players would have been able to survive her position. I know I've had fights with some of you about this before, but I really think that you can get screwed without crazy twists.
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Post Post #39 (ISO) » Sat Feb 03, 2018 10:44 am

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I think even with some crazy twists dont screw people.

twists usually dont screw people, they accelerate things (usually)
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Post Post #40 (ISO) » Sat Feb 03, 2018 11:04 am

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That's absolutely fair sometimes. However that doesn't change the fact that there are people who have won who if they got worse swaps premerge probably wouldn't have won. It's easy to say that someone wasn't screwed when they were eliminated and can't disprove you.
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Post Post #41 (ISO) » Sat Feb 03, 2018 4:33 pm

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Quinn in League.

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Post Post #42 (ISO) » Sat Feb 03, 2018 6:14 pm

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Quinn got boned in league because she replied to the wrong PM and I took it wrong
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Post Post #43 (ISO) » Sat Feb 03, 2018 6:18 pm

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Yeah Quinn wasn't very fucked over at all tbh.
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Post Post #44 (ISO) » Sat Feb 03, 2018 7:12 pm

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In post 41, xofelf wrote:Also Carrie in BotB.
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Post Post #45 (ISO) » Sat Feb 03, 2018 7:13 pm

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I would nominate gohan in DBZ who got booted over me who literally lost us two challenges In a row by not submitting
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Post Post #46 (ISO) » Sat Feb 03, 2018 9:55 pm

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Post Post #47 (ISO) » Sat Feb 03, 2018 11:04 pm

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You guys are forgetting the Secret Partner thing again. Quinn was swap screwed but also screwed because Shaco was put on the one tribe the other side would actively look out for him.

Lots of people get ordinary swap screwed and when its a matter of the numbers being bad and they just didn't talk right and click with people I don't feel like that's good enough when we're talking about The Most Screwed Player Ever. There has to be like, an alignment of the perfect moments? Like being teleported into a tribe you won a challenge against and being eliminated by them is a high bar to get past.
In post 45, hiplop wrote:I would nominate gohan in DBZ who got booted over me who literally lost us two challenges In a row by not submitting
Boring, he was eliminated because you connected better with me then he did, that's just normal survivor stuff!
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Post Post #48 (ISO) » Sun Feb 04, 2018 3:26 am

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In post 45, hiplop wrote:I would nominate gohan in DBZ who got booted over me who literally lost us two challenges In a row by not submitting
If that counts, than everyone who got voted out in Terra Incognita before Saladin are the most screwed over players in MS history
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Post Post #49 (ISO) » Sun Feb 04, 2018 3:27 am

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You see, Gohan is just me playing into the narrative Haschel posted earlier.
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