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Post Post #0  (ISO)  » Tue Feb 27, 2018 11:54 pm

Hi, everyone!

xofelf and I have been taking your feedback into account and are excited to announce a few changes to the queue system that we think will help a lot.
Plenty of people gave input on this and helped craft it, so thank you to xofelf, Haschel, and all the people who chimed in and gave feedback.

1. Modding Requirements
We're getting rid of the mandatory third mod requirement. Originally, it was introduced as a solution to help ensure new mods had an experienced mod with them, as well as a way to ensure every mod team had enough people spread around to cover any urgent matters. However, with us wanting to encourage more people to mod, we see that a team of three is not always possible. We do want to heavily encourage mod teams to include three people, but it is not a default requirement. All newbie mod teams may require a veteran mod to be on tap, handled on a case-by-case basis.

That being said, if you're a mod who has had issues running games in the past, the listmods may require you to have a third mod on hand. These requirements will be handled on a case-by-case basis by the listmod in charge of that game. Generally, once you run a game to completion without any major glaring issues, you'll be able to run games in a two person mod team again. For particularly egregious errors or mod problems, harsher penalties may be handed out.

2. Queue Requirements
In order to make sure we have a better system in place for figuring out what games are actually close to being completed, and to help mods make the sprint to the finish line, we're adding some "milestones" for game creation. Notably, we want to make sure the listmod in charge is able to be attached to the game from an earlier point so they can get a better perspective on the game. However, there aren't enough listmods to go around for every idea that gets posted, so we're setting some breakpoints for the queue:

  • MILESTONE 1: Your game has a logo, forums are created, and a basic game outline has been created. The outline doesn't have to include challenges, but will need to include number of players and initial twist ideas. At the point where you're ready with this, you submit your game to the queue, and a listmod is assigned to your game. Your game is added to the "current/upcoming games" list in the queue thread.
  • MILESTONE 2: Forum skinning/graphic templates are completed, challenge ideas have been filled in, and twists have been finalized. The listmod in charge will give a time frame of when your game will run and announce a game classification (see item 4 below).
  • MILESTONE 3: The game is fully completed: challenge writeups are done, intitial posts/permissions have been setup on the forums, and the game is ready to start. At this point, your game is ready to fire in the queue and casting may begin when it fires.

3. Theme Test Market/Looking for Co-Mods Thread
"Upcoming Game Ideas" will be used to toss out ideas for games and recruit potential co-mods. Unlike the current system, however, no games from this thread will have their status tracked. This will be a more lax, informal thread for games to incubate in until they're ready to fire. By keeping this thread to strictly these types of posts, we hope to differentiate better between a game being in idea phase, and a game having enough completed to be in active development. Currently, if you take a look through the upcoming game ideas thread, there are 23 games listed. When a new game is being "announced" so frequently, it lessens the impact an actually serious game announcement will have, so we're taking steps to ensure that the community realizes your game announcement is something important.

4. Survivor Classifications (Beta)
We're going to beta test the game classification system for a few Survivor games to see how it works. If it's not working, we'll can it or tweak it to make it better. This is only for Survivor games, because other games are run so infrequently there's no need for that level of classification (yet). This will require no additional effort on the mod team's part, and will simply be the way the listmod in charge classifies the game so players know what to expect. We will be using the system listed below, which is based on the system xof & I put together, mixed with some suggestions taken from the community (thanks to Haschel for the double points suggestion):
Complex or Bastard Game: 17+ points
Advanced Game: 11-16 points
Standard Game: 6-11 points
Vanilla Game: 0-5

4 points each
Idols & Items: Idols and unique items/powers are heavily prevalent in the game and exceed previous qualifiers.
Communication Methods: The way communication occurs significantly changes the foundation of how the game will be played.
Swaps & Game Shakeups: The game is in a fairly constant state of flux, or there are extreme methods of game shakeups.
Eliminations: Multiple elimination rounds will be common, and/or players will be expected to be voted out in non-traditional methods.
Mechanics & Twists (count double): The game will feature multiple unique/themed mechanics that are mostly or entirely secretive and players should expect to be surprised by design.

2 points each
Idols & Items: Idols could be re-hidden, or there could be more than one idol per tribe / Items & powers in this game are fairly standard.
Communication Methods: PM communication exists, but there are incidents of cross-tribal communication, or unusual communication methods/restrictions.
Swaps & Game Shakeups: Tribe swaps occur frequently, or there are non-traditional game shakeups.
Eliminations: Players should expect that there will be occurrences of multiple eliminations in a round, or players being voted out in a non-traditional methods.
Mechanics & Twists (count double): Mechanics/twists in this game should be expected, but they will be partially explained ahead of time to allow players to play around them.

1 point each
Idols & Items: One idol per tribe, maximum, with no re-hiding of idols. / One or two items exist
Communication Methods: Communication is mostly limited to PMs, and is strictly on tribal lines (not including potential challenge smack talk).
Swaps & Game Shakeups: Tribe swaps occur with more frequency, but there are no more than 2 swaps {16-20 players} or 3 swaps {20+ player}.
Eliminations: There's a potential for more than one player to be eliminated per round, based on who is voted out.
Mechanics & Twists (count double): Mechanics/twists only include twists/mechanics from the TV show, and/or any new mechanics/twists are fully explained ahead of time.

0 points each
Idols & Items: There are little-to-no hidden items or idols in this game, with no re-hiding of idols. / No items are present.
Communication Methods: Communication in this game is strictly limited to PMs.
Swaps & Game Shakeups: There is only one (or none) tribe swap in the game.
Eliminations: Players will be eliminated once per round, based only on who is voted out.
Mechanics & Twists: Nothing in this game would be surprising to see on the first few seasons of Survivor (TV).
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Post Post #1  (ISO)  » Wed Feb 28, 2018 12:07 am

We'll be changing some threads around and that sort of thing over the next day or so, stay tuned!
Xalxe: this is xofelf sometimes we call each other names and other times we share emotions
MattyP: Ur an enigma tho when it comes to circadian rhythm and the traditions we hold dear when it comes to the sun and the moon
Xof has a new place for you to ask her questions. Do it upppp
Discord is faster than PMs or sitechat: xofelf#1697

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Post Post #2  (ISO)  » Wed Feb 28, 2018 12:08 am

The queue thread has been edited, and will be revised further tomorrow.
We expect the new Theme Test Market thread to be up tomorrow.

The next game to go into signups (Super Survivor Bros) will be the first one to use this system.

p.edit: xof beating me to the punch as always.
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