[Standard] Survivor: Know Your Enemies (Summer wins!)

[Aristophanes]

Okay, but can we agree that OLAAT should have people actually SITTING OUT from the tribe with more members? They totally had a huge advantage on us in numbers, and not just because we had multiple people busy with IRL events.

They didn't use the advantage, had more potential for a player not posting, and had more chance of trolly posts or ones that didn't string the story together. I think it was relatively fair tbh

[Silverclaw]

Okay, but can we agree that OLAAT should have people actually SITTING OUT from the tribe with more members? They totally had a huge advantage on us in numbers, and not just because we had multiple people busy with IRL events.

I meaaaan Haschel and Pine basically wrote the entire thing, save everyone giving the mandatory participation.

[Pine]

And we spent the latter 75% of it justifying the twists thrown at us by mandatory participants >_>

[Haschel Cedricson]

And we spent the latter 75% of it justifying the twists thrown at us by mandatory participants >_>

[D3f3nd3r]

Hey I tried to provide as little content as possible in my ~3 sentences!

[zoraster]

Okay, but can we agree that OLAAT should have people actually SITTING OUT from the tribe with more members? They totally had a huge advantage on us in numbers, and not just because we had multiple people busy with IRL events.

No. I definitely disagree with this. The tribe with fewer members was at an advantage. The only advantage that you get with more people is that you're more likely to have people who write well/are active, but if the response to uneven numbers is to sit out people that doesn't solve that issue because you'd just sit out the people who just submitted a sentence or two in the first place.

OLAAT is a challenge primarily because you're trying to tell a story with other people without knowing what they're thinking. The more people involved, the harder that is.

[Silverclaw]

I'm with zor on this - less people for that challenge was ultimately better - when Malkon lost his shit for Aronis not participating much, I went "isn't having less people partaking the optimal play?" And was never certain if it was to justify the Aronis boot or not.

[Haschel Cedricson]

Agreed. There was definitely a point where I got mad at Mist for participating because they had already done the minimum contribution and I didn't want Pine and I to get derailed.

[Pine]

We got lucky on that score - Haschel is an excellent creative partner, and often picked up on when I needed him to give me a low-content sentence so I could continue a complex thought as well as when we were kind of floundering and needed a change.

[Malkon05]

Can we just agree to agree?

[Haschel Cedricson]

Can we just agree to agree?

[Haschel Cedricson]

Can we just agree to agree?

[het]

And we spent the latter 75% of it justifying the twists thrown at us by mandatory participants >_>

You freaking out a bit at DV's sentence involving the wings was one of the funnier confessional moments

[Skelda]

Omg DV was responsible for the stupid wings? Buahahaha. I'm sure I docked some points bc of those wings

I actually do think in general, people should be sitting out of challenges even if the challenge doesn't strictly speaking require it. Regardless of it is advantageous for the bigger or smaller tribe, ideally all challenges should be as even as possible. And ideally they have to choose sitouts before they know what the challenge will be.

[zoraster]

I mean, I think ideally everyone participates in challenges. Sitting out is sometimes necessary to make a challenge work (see seesaws), but it's a small weakness of the challenge.

Anyway, I'll also happily give advantages to teams with fewer people. As a mod, I don't REALLY want to see one tribe dominate and the other get immunity the whole way so making it slightly harder is a positive force. In real survivor there are some interesting things that happen from that, but because we do these games to be played rather than primarily to be watched, having someone who barely plays the game for X amount of time isn't ideal.

[Pine]

Hey all, anyone who is open to it, I just dumped some thoughts into my confessional, and I'm soliciting perspectives on a post-mortem of this game. I was thinking to just ask some targeted specs, but everyone's point of view is valuable.

[SummerInWonderland]

Okay, but can we agree that OLAAT should have people actually SITTING OUT from the tribe with more members? They totally had a huge advantage on us in numbers, and not just because we had multiple people busy with IRL events.

I agree with Awoo

I also just think challenges should have an equal number of people participating. Regardless of who had the advantaged, challenges should be equal. It was not.

[Malkon05]

I disagree with all of you. Imo all challenges should be dice rolls.

[SleepyKrew]

I disagree with all of you. Imo all challenges should be dice rolls.

I will murder you

[Haschel Cedricson]

Original Roll String: 1d20+2

1 20-Sided Dice: (7)+2 = 9

[Haschel Cedricson]

I'm sorry, you have failed to kill Malkon.

[Aristophanes]

What's his AC?

[Malkon05]

I'm sorry, you have failed to kill Malkon.

Damn it, that guy sucks.

[SleepyKrew]

only giving me a +2 is really underestimating my murder skill