Super secret alliance number 2 will devour Drench's alliance. << >>
But also... um... I'd like to join Drench's alliance too.
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Well, I'm not sure that voting at the Blue Tribe's Tribal Council will make much difference. Since the Blue Tribe seem to have their weakest link in mind, they will probably vote them off, no matter who I vote for. Of course, voting off the weakest link would be a rookie mistake, but what can you do? Someone that knows how Survivor works would know that it is in a person's best interest to vote off the strongest player in their tribe. At the end, that means there will be less competition. For example, if you are a medium-strength player that has made it to the end, where you must face your former tribemate, would you rather face the strongest player or the weakest one? With this logic, the obvious pick would be Espeonage, but since he has immunity... I think Cybele would be the wisest choice for anyone in Blue Tribe. After all, Espeonage may continue winning them immunity, but Cybele would only be more competition when Espeonage is gone near the end (if Espeonage is kicked out).Chevre wrote:KageLord, how do you feel about being able to vote at this Tribal Council? Do you regret not being able to vote at your own tribe’s Tribal Council?
Hm... interesting. While I won't tell you myself (if the rest of my team wants to, then sure) what our arrangement was, I will tell you that if everyone had done exactly what they were supposed to on both teams (including the ones that didn't submit at all), we would have won both games. Even after one player's unilateral move and Monkey's no show, we actually still would have won game 1 as well if another player hadn't misunderstood his assignment (he did something like 6 on box 7 in game 1, essentially wasting 6 chips by your setup).Cybele wrote:Fair enough. Here was our plan, identical for each game. Everything went according to plan except for chihuahua0's role (P4 on game 2):10 chips on box 10 - P1
10 chips on box 9 - P2
10 chips on box 8 - P3
10 chips on box 7 - P4
6 chips on box 6, 3 chips on box 5, 1 chip on box 4 - P5
!XOBILE!Cybele wrote:Oh... summabuddy's gonna get a hurt, real bad! Summabuddy...Chevre wrote:Cybele, with 1 vote, you are safe.
/intense stare
lol... can't tell if you're joking or serious. It's a Russell Peters joke. Same comic that does the "somebody gonna getta hurt real bad" thing.Cybele wrote:Yeah, I know it was you... and that's not how you say my name. It is like this:
SIB-el-LEE. Like Simile, but with a 'b'.
Yes, I couldn't have agreed more with their decision. At this point in the game, we have to get rid of our inactive players. The one we got rid of first had never even posted in this thread, did not respond to PMs, and did not post in the QT. Obviously, he would be the greatest liability. This time, we may have a similar player to vote off.Chevre wrote:KageLord, do you agree with the decision your tribe made at the last Tribal Council?
This happened to me too.Cybele wrote:Thought I had submitted. Ah well.
... lol.Crazy wrote:
Loser Blue Tribes: Kucha, Rotu, Tambaqui, Ulong, Yaxha, Rarotonga, Heroes, plus on this forum - Killer Boys, and the SUMHAS, and the Blue Tribe in this game.
Winner Blue Tribes: Drake (but only because Sandra is that awesome.)
I think they probably could have seen it coming.Chevre wrote:KageLordandMoospiker, how do you feel about Karma and pickemgenius going home?
I would say it's becoming increasingly individual, but at this point there is still an alliance-mentality more than a tribe-mentality, which is unfortunate.Chevre wrote:KageLord, would you say the remaining castaways are playing with a tribe-mentality or an individual-mentality? Or a mixture of both?
I feel pretty good about making it this far. The future of the game is still a complete mystery though.KageLord and xRECKONERx, how do you feel about making it to merge?
Can you send me these convos? The only people I remember talking to are you, BB, and emily at the very beginning, which dissolved after a couple ICs.xRECKONERx wrote:Oh hey, herp derp, guess what? I never lied to diginova, never told him anything. I also never lied to Crazy or told him anything of the sort. KageLord was in with us, but then next thing I heard I had people sending me convos that he was supposedly having that hinted at his departure from the alliance so I thought he had left us.
Same story for me. My result was .1832 seconds.xRECKONERx wrote:OH COME ON!
I had that result sitting around for forever, I just forgot to submit >.>
This was my guess.Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Not really my place, but I'm going to assume Reckoner won a vote reversal at the immunity auction 2 challenges ago...
No clue who those are. O.oCrazy wrote:So is RECK the Danni Boatwright or the Cirie Fields of this season? And will I be the Rafe Judkins or the Parvati Shallow?
... I actually didn't submit a vote.Crazy wrote:Was that a self-vote, KageLord? XD
F4, wooh!
Hm? To tell you the truth, I was just trying to get Reck out since our counter-alliance thing started. I thought there might be a reason none of you (except maybe Berry) wanted to vote Reck out, but since I was barely a member anyway, I couldn't really push the issue. And you can believe what you want, but that was honestly what I thought. As soon as Berry went out, I knew it was over for me. The only time I actually tried to get you out was when I thought Reck would be eliminated (instead of Berry) and figured you had a double vote.Crazy wrote:KageLord
Last one. I spent most of the game without talking to you, yet in this past TC I came really really close to taking your offer. Ultimately, though, I could trust Moospiker more than you. I'm not sure what you were planning to do, but since you missed the deadline, I see I automatically made the correct decision; my vote wouldn't have made any difference. Anyway, you have my respect as a player (you had me scared to death at F7, F6, and F5! F6 I know for sure you were trying to get me out.) and I didn't believe you for a second when you said you had no delusions of winning this game.
Win. GG.Drench wrote:mallowgeno wrote:However, alliances within alliances are the most stable.
Eh, idk. If Crazy stabbed us, so did Moo, Reck, and mallow. I consider each a bit of backstabbing, even though it wasn't specifically stated that we were to be together until the finals. When forming an alliance, unless you are specifically notified that you are out of the alliance and there is a legit reason for it, I think it's still somewhat backstabbing. That said, this game is inherently about backstabbing. I have no hard feelings about it (though I do know who I'm likely to vote now).Crazy wrote:That's debatable. I'd argue "no," but just like with RECK, I can see the argument for "yes," even though by his definition, you can hardly breathe without "backstabbing" someone.mallowgeno wrote:Actually you also backstabbed Black and KageCrazy wrote:RECK, I promised you that I wanted to keep you around until right before the FTC and then vote you off. I kept that promise.
Drench is the only person I backstabbed in this game. He's the one that should be mad, not you. I kept you 3 Tribal Councils longer than when you were SUPPOSED to leave.
If I voted off Moo tonight, thenthatwould be a backstab.
Note for the others: this was before it was announced that there would be an F3 instead of F2. At the time (F5), I assumed (pending the results of ICs) I would become 5th, mallow 4th, Reck 3rd (or Reck 4th, mallow 3rd), and then final between Crazy and Moo.mallowgeno wrote:Now Kage warned me that Crazy was coming after me but I didn't believe him. Looks like he intended to backstab me however...
Oooo turnaround. AtE.Crazy wrote:I didn't use my double-vote on RECK. I used it on Blackberry. I was the main one fighting to keep RECK in the game as long as he did. Heck, even Moospiker voted for him at F7.dramonic wrote:@Crazy: Considering you double-voted Reck, do you really expect me to vote for your win? ;_ ;
Cybele wrote:Yay for politicizing a forum game. Not to say that I don't absolutely hate that answer, but is it really what we should be voting on? Christ, he's not running for congress.Blackberry wrote:Im joining the Cybele-Drench-dramonic-xRecknorx alliance.
It's implied. A jury in a court of law doesn't (at least shouldn't) vote guilty or innocent based on whether they share the same beliefs as the accused. They vote based on information relevant to the case (or in our case, the game).Espeonage wrote:Where does it say that the jury has to keep their decision based on the game?
That's kind of why you played this game the best. I mean, you did go back on our counter-alliance thing by voting Berry, but somehow it didn't seem like you were as active in that as mallow and Crazy. Staying in the shadows ftw.Moospiker wrote: Thanks everyone - I'm actually shocked I won this. After all the alliance-y stuff going on I thought I would go out next but the counter-alliance came along and it all worked out perfectly. I have to give A LOT of credit to Crazy for basically being the person who did all the stabbing and so forth,which somehow left me as the person that didn't have any enemies. Agreed, mallow should have probably won - he played a lot better than I did too - but I'm pretty happy with how it turned out.
What would you have done if RECK won the last IC though? I'm pretty sure you know as well as everyone else that he was a cinch to win if he was still in at jury vote. I would think it was more likely you would have taken RECK out, then tried to get mallow to join you and Moo vs. me and Berry at F5. Or that, after Berry, you would have taken RECK out and then me (since my only real ally, Berry, would be gone and you could apparently trust Moo), followed by mallow (if it was F2 and ICs didn't get in the way of the order). Even if I survived to jury vote with you, I think you would have won.Crazy wrote:RECK served as my shield to prevent people from voting me out. Instead of voting for me, they'd vote for RECK, so I got to the F3 without ever getting a vote, other than that one time I intentionally self-voted. I worried if I was in the F4 with you/Moo/mallow that I would be voted off.KageLord wrote:Plus I disliked mallow and Crazy's play for almost letting Reck win (i.e. if he won the last IC, it was gg) and again you seemed conspicuously absent from the blame .
Blackberry could have served as my shield, as well, but that wouldn't have worked as well because I would have had to find some way to vote you off before the F4 (because you were allied with him), and I don't think Berry would support that.
I thought mallow voted for RECK at F5. Or at least he wanted to. It really wasn't his doing that made RECK go so far; mainly it was me/Moospiker.
If you want to be that black and white about it... yes.Blackberry wrote:So basically you think he played the best game because he was lazy and didn't do anything?KageLord wrote:
That's kind of why you played this game the best. I mean, you did go back on our counter-alliance thing by voting Berry, but somehow it didn't seem like you were as active in that as mallow and Crazy. Staying in the shadows ftw.
Plus I disliked mallow and Crazy's play for almost letting Reck win (i.e. if he won the last IC, it was gg) and again you seemed conspicuously absent from the blame .
lol pretty sure I can fault you for an unnecessary risk, even if it did pay off. Besides, if that first final IC wasn't nullified, he might have gotten in first and gg.Crazy wrote:If RECK would have won the last IC, then he would have won the gmae, but that was a risk I thought was necessary to take. And well, it paid off (I lost for different reasons), so I'm not sure you can really fault me for it.Kage wrote:What would you have done if RECK won the last IC though? I'm pretty sure you know as well as everyone else that he was a cinch to win if he was still in at jury vote. I would think it was more likely you would have taken RECK out, then tried to get mallow to join you and Moo vs. me and Berry at F5. Or that, after Berry, you would have taken RECK out and then me (since my only real ally, Berry, would be gone and you could apparently trust Moo), followed by mallow (if it was F2 and ICs didn't get in the way of the order). Even if I survived to jury vote with you, I think you would have won.
As for me, there were too many question marks if I voted off RECK earlier than I did. If I voted RECK off at F6, then I worried that mallow would side with you and Berry rather than me and Moospiker. I figured that would have been a greater risk than a 1/4 (or even a 1/3) shot of RECK winning the final immunity. If I voted RECK off at F5 instead of you, then I was convinced that mallow and Moo would vote me off instead of you at F4. Maybe not, but there was still a decent chance it might happen. If you won immunity at F4, then I definitely would have been toast, which is at the very least, no better than the risk I took by taking RECK to the F4.