Web of Trust - Game Over

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/in for replacean

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and if i am in can someone post a summary? trying to read this for me is a little agonizing...

nvm there is enough info i think i can prolly make my own... waiting for role

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GREETINGS GENTLEMEN
As your official Advanced Drench Substitute (or ADS for short), I believe that the first point of order is to...

TRUST: Kitoari

And by extension, I auto-trust Wingless, KageLord, and Zodiark13.
That makes 5, and the end of round 2.

The last sentence makes me believe that JDGA doesn't believe this would be the last round.

I wonder, who would be opposed to a grouping with Zodiark, Kitoari, Wingless, RC and mykonian? Those are the players on top of my townlist on this moment.

game is a bust, i think. Was this a vote?
if not, i never saw once in the thread where myk voted for my slot and web 3 shouldn't of ended there.

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oh, well

let me rephrase that,

Did myk in fact vote for kit in round 3?

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got it mod sorry for the confusion.

also: /confirmed

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well no other way to crack it...

trust myk and Lady L

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web 1:
KL
myk
wing
JDGA
zod

Web 2:
zod
KL
kit
wing
JDGA

Web 3:
myk
zang (me)
kit
wing
LadyL

in common: (this player shows up more than once) player:times in web
KL: 2
Myk: 2
Zod: 2
wing: 3
jdga: 2
kit: 2


kon-clue-shuns:
wing is obv scum and it would be wise to stay from him.
LadyL: as im new and you only show up once in a web im more inclined to trust you than anyone right now. also since you trust myk ill go along with that.
Finally my slot only shows up in one web, the likelihood of me being scummy are slim based on these facts.

also worth noting everyone has been in a final web at some point so according to the above LadyL and I are the least likely suspects

i would also avoid jdga. gut feeling.

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also

waiting on a answer concerning the myk > kit vote!

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I REALLY NEED TO STOP POSTING!!!
ebwop:i'm also iso-ing myk for safety reasons.

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got a little bit of isoing done.... mainly trying to figure out why people think i'm scummy. looks zang didn't really put enough effort in, as for JDGA's slot I only need to point you to his predecessor's(drench's) iso. Along the same vain I can't tell if its scummy or lack of effort in that slot...

@myk: right, gonna do him next

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WALL POST
My iso on KL

post 2: Trust's wingless out the gate
post 3: logic/fluff
post 4: bit fluffy
post 5: Trust zod.
post 6: thinks dench is scummy
post 7: whines, thinks zang and myk are scum
post 8: as fluffly as a good pillow
post 9: concedes to myk
post 10: trust's kit
post 11: fluff(?)
post 12: futher distrust in myk, suggest a web with my slot
post 13: tiff with myk, provides a suggestion
post 14: suggests a web: Kit, Zod, JDGA, LadyL's slot, and my slot
post 15: WIFOM maybe?
posts 16-18: sucks up to myk
post 19: lolscum, now reads LadyL's slot, myk as town.
post 20: retort's to zod
post 21: suggests LL, myk, KL, zod, kit
post 22: argues impossible for him to be scum
post 23: gets LL to help him make a case(?)
post 24: dismisses one arguement as AtE, makes little sence to anoter <==reread needed


in short i think wing and KL are scum becuase two reasons.
A) KL never mentions Wing EVER except post 2 where he trusts him.
B) after attacking myk for most of the game he starts bouncing a little and sucking up to myk.

also: taking back what i said about JDGA as scum but he needs to post more.
KL: please respond to this because i need to hear why you are not scum.

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EBWOP:

THANKS MOD

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If Kage is scum, his partner is JDGA/Wingless/Zang.

Really? I don't think scum would leave their partner out of their suggestions. Nothing to lose by putting them in.

Anyway, I'm not scum so I couldn't really say with much certainty what they would do in this game.

Also, given the result of Web 3,

it's impossible for me to be scum

with JDGA (or Zodiark).

For some reason I smell a wifom here... but i'll give you the one about 22, you were responding to someone calling you out on modding your posts

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another EBWOP:
The reason i thought JDGA was scum was because of his predecessor's play, and that fact that he himself has only posted 4 times since he was replaced in.
Long story short:
@JDGA: POST MOAR!

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As for the myk situation, my read changed on him. Simple as that. I never sucked up to him. I said his plan was good, which (pretty much) objectively it was. My read on him changed mostly because he actually cared to try things.

Scum in this game could just sit back and watch town exclude each other. Lurking obviously isn't really punished here.

I realized my initial scum read on him was based more on OMGUS and disliking his playstyle than anything else, so there was no reason not to change the read.

I would think that it would behoove scum to try and advertise trusting them proactively THEN sit back. I've also noted that about... lets say a little more than half? --of your posts were responses to suspicion.

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Okay then KL who's your town reads now at this stage?

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EBWOP:

D'OH!

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Also:

"Kc" is fine if you want to refer to me

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i'm gonna ISO zod after thanksgiving... though after skimming i'm inclined to believe he's town...

as far as wingless and JDGA goes i have no qualms about leaving them out...

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kay, since i've had my fill of turkey time for that iso on Zod:

post 1: out the gate questions JDGA'S slot.
post 2: gets clearifications on rules
post 3: trusts drench
post 4: questions setup of game, clarifies for another
post 5: says status of Web (web 2)
post 6: trusts KL, JDGA's slot. calls myk scum
post 7: thinks myk, kit are scum, tries to calm folks
post 8: fluffy. I LIKE COOKIES ZOD!!
post 9-10: puts down solid logic, clears JDGA's slot.
post 11: restates myk as scummy, split between LL's slot and kit's slot for other scum
post 12: V/LA
post 13: responds to KL(?), my slot. asks my slot why is he questioning him.
post 14: complains about state of game
post 15: discovers via logic that one or both of his orginal scumtells are false.
post 16: calls kit scum
post 17: puts down GREAT LOGIC about the game, suggests web: zod, LL, me, wing, JDGA/KL
post 18-19: responds to multiple posts, states some reasons why kit is scum.
post 20: WALL POST >:( : mainly responds to myk's arguements.
post 21: humors kit.
post 22: realizes that every post of his aimed at kit was supposed to be for wingless. fos's LL, kit.
post 23: blames LL and wing for collapse(?)
post 24: thinks KL is slightly scummy, tries to get ppeoples reads.
post 25: dismisses wing from future webs
post 26: responds to KL.
post 27: suggests web: myk, kit, me, zod, LL
post 28: another response to KL.
post 29: goes into depression about state of game

conclusion: flip-flops around from scummy to town and back early, then i read him as pro-town incarnate mainly because of post 17

KL: that eliminates one non-scum to be excluded from your web and since wingless we all agree IS scummy that in my mind leaves only jdga and you as the only other scum

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ebwop: i think considering all that i've discovered, the web in post 27 is my ideal bet.

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right well I hope that Kit comes back or the replacement for s/he comes in so this game might have a end.

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EBWOP (gee there's been alot of these lately huh?):

I meant Him/her

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AND ONE MORE EBWOP:

If Kage is scum, his partner is JDGA/Wingless/Zang.

Really? I don't think scum would leave their partner out of their suggestions. Nothing to lose by putting them in.

Anyway, I'm not scum so I couldn't really say with much certainty what they would do in this game.

Also, given the result of Web 3,

it's impossible for me to be scum

with JDGA (or Zodiark).

For some reason I smell a wifom here... but i'll give you the one about

23

, you were responding to someone calling you out on modding your posts

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MOD: is there anyway i could have access to zang's web QT? I AM his replacement...

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I think I would be equally disappointed if wing or Kcda won the game as scum.

i feel like acting like KL here:

I'MNOTSCUMI'MNOTSCUMI'MNOTSCUMI'MNOTSCUMI'MNOTSCUMI'MNOTSCUM

now that I got that out of my system...

I promised a ISO on myk earlier and i never delivered... I will today.
also ISOing kit so LadyL can sleep better

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EBWOP or Kcdaspot REALLY sucks at posting:

i meant so that myk would sleep better not LadyL

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(begins ISO on myk)
(64 posts)
DAAAAYYYUUUUMMMNNN

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ISO on myk part 1:

post 2: puts up a Random Question.
post 3: Trusts RC(LadyL)
post 4: agrees with drench(JDGA)
post 5: explains KL, Wing, drench, zod web. is Iffy on KL
post 6: "talk it straight?"*
post 7: Trusts drench.
post 8: interprets rules
post 9: trusts RC(LadyL), Zod
post 10: explains how viruses win, proclaims self not scum
post 11: agrees with zod/defends against scum accusation against zod(pretty well mind you), questions Wing
post 12: lolscum(similer to KL), town reads kit, defends against zod more, town read LadyL's slot(lol "mislynch"?)
post 13: talks to mod
post 14: WANTS ACTION, notices a split between his reads and kit's
post 15: nukes kit proposal, wants kit's ideal web at that point.
post 16-17: makes a mistake/fixes
post 18: advises smart BWing for KL
post 19: admits mistake to kito
post 20: suggests KL, wing, zod, drench(JGDA), kito
post 21-23: tiff with KL, despression
post 24: suggests zod, kit, wing, LadyL's slot, and self **
post 25-26: more tiff with KL
post 27: suspicous of my slot,KL ,and JDGA. Asks Zod a Q.
post 28: lays down solid logic, town reads: kito *
post 29: says via logic my slot is not likly scum, trusts kito wants zod to take LL over me
post 30: thinks wing is scummy
post 31: doesnt want both kit and me out for 3rd web.
post 32: blah
post 33: dosn't trust KL or JDGA
post 34: dismisses JDGA from web
post 35: says/restates in effect that KL and JDGA are scummy
post 36: confused about kito

* could you explain this post better?
** ends page 1. i read scummy to this point. mainly because of stating self as town twice in 3rd person... i find that annoying

part 2 coming to a theater near you.

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EBWOP: post 18: advises KL to do some smart BWing

sorry

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Myk's ISO PART 2: The revenge....

post 37: critises Zod for his play. other stuff...*
post 38: WALL POST (grrrrr): argues with zod ***
post 39: more with zod
post 40: asks if ladyL has accsess to QT's
post 41: ???????? ****
post 42: asks for prods
post 43: explains the logic of the game to lady
post 44: asks for explaination on why they should let my slot in
post 45: more logic
post 46: more logic same for the rest of the posts really
truthfully my mind got exhausted at this point but the posts are pretty simple from then on

highlights: 48: trusts Lady
51: blames me
52: "RC was town"
56: helps kito with boredom
59: my entry into the game, suspicious of me
62: trusts Zod
63: suggests web of: ME, zod, himself, LadyL, kit

he seems very town from page 2 and onward mainly due to is activity and his pretty sound thinking from there on in

page 1 seemed a little iffy to me but yeah definitly town

*** Zod: i dont get what you meant by "spur of the moment" now that i think of it could you explain?
**** this is really confusing... what made you trust zod? something in the QT's? i thought you thought he was scummy to this point... @_@

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Trust: Lady Lambdadelta
Trust: mykonian
Trust: Kitoari

Kinda not so sure about kcda. His hyperactive posting kinda makes me think scum trying to look town by posting far too much.

sorry. trying to get all of my thoughts in as few posts as possible is proving very difficult. trying to fix that as i go along.

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Sooner or later I'm gonna need critique over my iso's...

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Thanks myk my brain hurts less... now whos turn for iso's was it? oh kit...

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Before i start,

thanks mod!! got the QT's!!!

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wait "was seen as a solid protown but wrong."

@myk: wut? starting iso now

OH HAI KIT I WAS JUST GONNA ISO YOU!
how you been? how's those family problems? mind giving your thoughts on my iso's?

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post 0: notes predecesor lack of activity
post 1: tells his reads/ my slot is at the bottom along with myk
post 2: more stuff about his slot, calls myk scum
post 3: trusts Zod
post 4: proposes merging of webs
post 5: realizes it won't work.
post 6: likes myks web idea, trusts kage and wingless
post 7: yells at drench in hopes of victory
post 8: is dissapoint when victory is denied
post 9: suggests myk, RC(LadyL), kit, zod, zang(me)
post 10: blah
post 11: trusts RC, wing, myk and my slot
post 12: critises Zods plan, likes RC
post 13: defends against accuseation by zod
post 14: argues with zod, welcomes LL
post 15: blah
post 16: dismisses wing.
post 17: "apathy"
post 18: family issues/ bows out
post 19: comes back


this worries me... i now have a null read on kit. he hasn't contributed much to this but his... style... seems towny MORE CONFUSION FOR KCDASPOT

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I'm now entertaining the thought of "if wing isn't scum"

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skimmed wings iso... looks like he's done as much as kit if not less.... this game got confusing for me... in my mind there are 4 possible scum: Kit, KL, JDGA, Wing.


since zod is the only one trusting kit its not too late... but still i like that myk, Zod, and LL are teamed up, that make 3 confirmed town regardless of what you decide next... looks like you'll not be trusting me anytime soon so in light of that the only alternative to trusting me is Kit and Jdga since i get less scum reads from them, i hope you guys make good decisions... I will be checking up on this thread later... Hope my info helps...

~KCDASPOT.

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for some reason I feel better bout myself and the game isnt over yet... we still have to chose one of 4 people to trust provided that your comrades trust me as well.

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oh zod is in your web...

trust zod

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(writes on a chalkboard 1000 times "I will stop posting")

Again I don't know about kit, being he's put in about as much as wingless... hmm, I think what Jdga, KL, Wing and kit need to do is to present cases on why are they not scum, this IS the equivalent of a 3 or 5-way lylo. In the meantime, I'll do a ISO on JDGA's whole slot... that WILL require anther post by me (entire thread sighs in disgust).

Also the reason I post like this is because I dislike wall-posts and I'd hate for some one to suffer wall posts one after another (which seems to happen quite a bit here). Second, I AM a bit hyperactive in that as soon as I hit the "submit" button, I think of something else. In all I realize that my adversion to doing wall-posts has in fact left this thread with the opposite... Spam as stated before I will find a happy medium between the two as my experience on this forum grows.

pre post edit: DERP, thanks myk.

Now for that ISO...

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Drench: 9 posts

Post 2: lol
post 3: Trusts Zod, more lol
post 4: logic
post 5: logic smashed
post 6: trusts wing
post 7: trusts myk, notes that "1st web dosen't count"
post 8: whine about how everyone thinks he's scum, ragequits

JDGA: 6 posts

Post 0: greetings, trusts kit bringing a swift end to web 2.
post 1: logic, responds to myk, says myk and KL are scum.
post 2: complains? *
post 3: WIFOMWIFOMWIFOM
post 4: posting, agrees with myk's web, misreads rules
post 5: corrected on rules

Getting a null/on-the-fence read though i expected as much. Drench leans town early but leans scum late, mainly for trusting w/o input, then Ragequits...
Jdga is more of the same but leans more town than Drench... This is going to be a tough call... should I ISO wing in detail for yall or is this enough?

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EBWOP:

*JDGA Explain this post please

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bumping for one, second should mod be prodded?

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I'm short one QT... evaluating what JDGA said

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LadyL? WTH?

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you and me both myk... you and me both...

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AND CAN SOMEONE PLZ PROD THE HELL OUT OF KIT???

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LADYL DIDNT SAY THAT

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nvm GG

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it was myk??? WHAT???

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evil bastard >:( but gg