Web of Trust 2 - Phase 1

[ConSpiracy]

Well, I don't think we will get more activity until the first web is made.
I think we just have to make the first one without much of a hassle.

[Kcdaspot]

BUMP

[Tasky]

I'd love if this game wouldn't die. However, since I do think this is for your enjoyment only and isn't an official mafia game, I will not make you play if you don't want to. I would be really sad to kill this game, though.

[ConSpiracy]

Ok, well that is just bad:

Trust Mafuyu
Trust Mykonian

Let's just form a first web and then go to the second round.

[Kcdaspot]

HAHAHA dude you ARE in myk's slot. HAHAHA

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Hmmm....

You guys can get the web going without me right?

[MrTrow]

depends on how many people respond to the bump i guess (but if leaving a single person out is not an option, the game is dead anyway)
So now we`re hoping conversation picks up after web 1(or go for a lucky hit with it)?
So what web do you propose?
so far i asume you(conspiracy) still want me out.
i would like zirc to answer my question before i decide on whether or not to untrust
no (further) web ideas from me a.t.m. (too tired)

[SharkFinn]

If the web isnt formed through conspiriacy, then

trust conspiracy

just to see what's up

[Zyrconium]

Questions:

1. Have you played the first time? No
1b. If not, how do you think this game will work out? As said, I think it'll be harder to get reads, mostly because trusts are less... powerful.
2. What kind of special abilities did you think to be in this game before it started? I haven't thought much about it... although I did think the scum would have a NK at some point(and then worked out this was impossible.)
3. What do you think to be a good scum strategy to look out for? Anything that makes people go out of their way to trust them.(including what LLD is doing now.... not that I think said action is scummy necessarilly)
What is better:
4. To form the web out of one semi-conf player or let the group decide? Everyone should have a vote, but some of those votes should be worth less.
5. To let out someone who is considered to be town and want to be out or to put him/her in the web? In, the people on the outside give more info and the ones on the inside help us win...
6. Burgers or Hotdogs? Curry! which probably goes better with burgers...
7. A townie or a scum role? Townie

@zirc: could you tell us what 'third option' you were talking about (as you`re clearly not handling according to what i think you meant)
Also

Heh, totally missed that those were limited...

Trust LLD

, most townie + I'm bored.

Seems strange: 'ow i should be more carefull about trusing, TRUST ......'

A) I meant the discussion(possibly even analysis) option...

B) I didn't actually say we should be more careful now, did I? Sometimes I'm not going to just phrase things as theory -> conclusion...

Untrust LLD

for the sake of neatness, and paranoia.

Trust Conspiracy

for the sake of making things happen.

[MrTrow]

@zyrc
The discussion option was the one i thought:
So was 'i`m bored' the only reason you decided to trust LLD (and thus dedicating your last untrust (to someone who didn`t want to be in the web in the first place)) while you called her out on avoiding discussion, or did you actually have a reason to call her 'most townie'?

[ConSpiracy]

HAHAHA dude you ARE in myk's slot. HAHAHA

Lollol fail, I meant Zyrc. Anyways, I think I take that one back. I don´t like him switching from web to web.

I want a web formed of:
me
mafuyu
kcdaspot (if he wants to or rather stays out)/otherwise I want Zyrc.
Sharkfinn (don´t know how he usually plays, but the way he talks just gives me townvibes)
kaleidoscope

All agreed?
I'd like to have Lady in there too, but she'd rather be out of it.

trust: Shark
trust: Kaleidoscope

I also don´t understand the 2 coefficients I got in this game. I have n=1 en f=1. Can somebody please explain to me how this indirect trusts work? Am I indirect trusting Lady now?

@zyrc
The discussion option was the one i thought:
So was 'i`m bored' the only reason you decided to trust LLD (and thus dedicating your last untrust (to someone who didn`t want to be in the web in the first place)) while you called her out on avoiding discussion, or did you actually have a reason to call her 'most townie'?

I like this.

All others: Who do you want in the web, MrTrow or Zyrc? (If Kcdaspot wants to stay out) I might stretch getting him in the web.

[Kcdaspot]

I'm still out.

[ConSpiracy]

Tasky, could you please send every one a message that they should respond?
Then we can make the first web and be a little more active I hope.

[Kcdaspot]

that's called a "prod", though yeah seconded

[ConSpiracy]

Fine with me.

All others: Who do you want in the web, MrTrow or Zyrc? (If Kcdaspot wants to stay out) I might stretch getting him in the web.

Kc? Since it is your spot...

[Kcdaspot]

I'm still out.

[Kcdaspot]

oh... just do both

[MrTrow]

Getting us both in is indeed an option (not sure it`s a good one though)
the resulting 6-man web will mean there will be a 'silent vote' to vote someone out.
(not sure whether all players or only the 6 in the web may vote: Tasky could you please clear this up?)
Afterwards all votes will be known, but all discussion is omitted (then again there isn`t that much discussion going on atm(not that i can add much to my view))

As for the trust-coefficients:
it`s f and h
and yes, with those numbers, you indirectly trust LLD.
If you directly trust 'f' people who trust another person (direct or not doesn`t matter) you indirectly trust that person
If you indirectly trust 'h' people who trust another person (again this doesn`t have to be direct) you indirectly trust that person as well
the calculation pretty much means that 'half of each' will result in an indirect trust as well (but with either coefficient as 1 that doesn`t matter)
so your f=1 indeed means you trust Lady, your h=1 means that you trust whoever she decides to trust (which atm is no-one)

trust ConSpiracy

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

So, what do I do?

[Tasky]

(not sure whether all players or only the 6 in the web may vote: Tasky could you please clear this up?)

only the players in the web will vote.

Tasky, could you please send every one a message that they should respond?

prodding Mafuyu and JDGA

[Kcdaspot]

Trust and pray? we don't have much to work off of.

SF and ConSpriracy are our first full-trust. Congrats!!!

[ConSpiracy]

So, what do I do?

......
Trust me.

Getting us both in is indeed an option (not sure it`s a good one though)
the resulting 6-man web will mean there will be a 'silent vote' to vote someone out.
(not sure whether all players or only the 6 in the web may vote: Tasky could you please clear this up?)
Afterwards all votes will be known, but all discussion is omitted (then again there isn`t that much discussion going on atm(not that i can add much to my view))

As for the trust-coefficients:
it`s f and h
and yes, with those numbers, you indirectly trust LLD.
If you directly trust 'f' people who trust another person (direct or not doesn`t matter) you indirectly trust that person
If you indirectly trust 'h' people who trust another person (again this doesn`t have to be direct) you indirectly trust that person as well
the calculation pretty much means that 'half of each' will result in an indirect trust as well (but with either coefficient as 1 that doesn`t matter)
so your f=1 indeed means you trust Lady, your h=1 means that you trust whoever she decides to trust (which atm is no-one)

trust ConSpiracy

I again like this post.
Why did you trust somebody in your first post?

I think the 6 people voting thing is good. I will trust Zyrc and MrTrow last so we can vote.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Trust and pray? we don't have much to work off of.


SF and ConSpriracy are our first full-trust. Congrats!!!

You going to bold this...? @_@

[Kcdaspot]

you talking to me or the mod?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

you talking to me or the mod?

You, considering it doesn't have a

@Mod

on it.