ircher's micro normal review, June 2019

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Role List: 1. Town Loud Mailman 2. Town Loud Mailman 3. Town Traffic Analyst --- 4. Vanilla Townie 5. Vanilla Townie 6. Vanilla Townie 7. Vanilla Townie --- 8. Mafia Roleblocker 9. Mafia Encryptor Role PMs: 1. Town Loud Mailman Spoiler: Town Loud Mailman Welcome, {Player}, to Micro {X}: A Normal Game. You are a Town Loud Mailman ! Each night, you may attempt to send a message to another player. If your action succeeds, your target will receive your message and learn that you targeted them that night. (Note that the two messages (your message and the loud notification) will be sent as separate pms.) Sample Message You have received some anonymous mail! The contents are as follows: {Your Message Goes Here}. Loud Notification {Player} visited you last night. You win when all threats to the town are eliminated, and at least one townie is alive! Please confirm both by PM and in-thread. 2. Town Traffic Analyst Spoiler: Town Traffic Analyst Welcome, {Player}, to Micro {X}: A Normal Game. You are a Town Traffic Analyst ! Each night, you may investigate a player to learn if they can communicate privately with another player. (Please note that if there is only one player left in a private thread, you will get a negative result.) Can Communicate {Player} can communicate privately. Cannot Communicate {Player} cannot communicate privately. No Result No Result. You win when all threats to the town are eliminated, and at least one townie is alive! Please confirm both by PM and in-thread. 3. Vanilla Townie Spoiler: Vanilla Townie Welcome to Micro {X}: A Normal Game. You are a Vanilla Townie ! You possess no special abilities, but you possess both a voice and a vote. Use them well! You win when all threats to the town are eliminated, and at least one townie is alive! Please confirm both by PM and in-thread. 4. Mafia Roleblocker Spoiler: Mafia Roleblocker Welcome, {Player}, to Micro {X}: A Normal Game. You are a Mafia Roleblocker ! Each night, you may attempt to prevent a player from acting. As a member of the mafia, you may also select a person to kill; however, you cannot roleblock and kill at the same time. You may talk freely with your fellow mafioso in a private thread. The link will be sent in a separate pm. Note that by default, the two of you do not possess daytalk. You win when the mafia equal or outnumber the town, or nothing can prevent this from happening. Please confirm both by PM and in-thread. 5. Mafia Encryptor Spoiler: Mafia Encryptor Welcome, {Player}, to Micro {X}: A Normal Game. You are a Mafia Encryptor . You allow the mafia to converse during the day as well as during the night. As a member of the mafia, you may also select a person to kill; however, you cannot roleblock and kill at the same time. You may talk freely with your fellow mafioso in a private thread. The link will be sent in a separate pm. Note that by default, the two of you do not possess daytalk. You win when the mafia equal or outnumber the town, or nothing can prevent this from happening. Please confirm both by PM and in-thread.

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mastina voice

So like.

If you were to run this setup blind, 100 times, maaaaybe it would have a reasonable winrate.

Maybe.

Like, the big question is, will town trust that the Loud Mailmen are town? Will they, in the knowledge that this setup is balanced, assume that the Loud Mailmen are essentially Town Neighborizers?

If they do, sure, this is a fine setup. If they don't, well..... I don't think it's good enough.

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i tend to be even more skeptical of this sort of thing than mastina is, though i do believe it would be at least in the 40% range in practice. i don't trust loud mailman to be, like, a utility role very much (and neither does the mastina that i'm summoning up for that matter) since not only is it a purely communication role, it's a one-sided non-anonymous communcation role. the only difference between sending mail and just posting in thread at someone is that its a secret message (from someone who might not have anything to hide) and that the recipient knows somebody did a visiting night action (not even necessarily that they specifically gave them the mail). maybe you're thinking they arrange some clever way for the traffic analyst to encrypt results but that's really hard to make happen even under assumption of perfect play

i think the town power of the mailmen comes from setup spec and from the assumption that they are probably not multitasking since they already have a modifier. and if they're assumed both town + a traffic result or two comes in, sure, that might be ok town power - but its not really reliable, in my opinion. i'd also go as far as to say i like this setup for the normal queue because it duplicates a new & complicated role which doesn't happen often. but it's the sort of thing that lends to really rough balance scenarios (this would be close to a mountainous game in a lot of circumstances) that make people frustrated, and i don't think it's all that great for scum play either (all they can do is try to find the one useful rb target and maybe argue against the mailmen being masons). i'd pass as is if you were really married to the idea but i'd prefer if one of the mailmen were replaced with some other (not even that strong!) role, such as loud rolecop, night 2 loyal voyeur, loud innocent child for a few examples.

other notes:
-i don't have a problem with anything if you already know this but the current ruling is that traffic analyst doesn't get a positive on mailmen. just seemed like that might be something that might be a confusion
-i'd encourage removing the encryptor and making this a confirmed daytalk setup. thats mostly because as is there is a minority of vanilla roles and removing encryptor takes out some of the noise (no pun intended) without changing the way the setup plays. im also just partial to publicly confirmed daytalk in general but etc

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oh lol i misread the wiki page lol

yeah itd be rather scumsided with 2 mailmen then.

/pass for the above

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theres something about u and friendly neighbors.....................