Cook's Mini Normal Review, June 2021

[Isis]

I think if you convert the novice neighbor into a regular neighbor the gimmick is fine.

It's light on town power and I expect NSG will ask you to add some.

[Isis]

The wiki page for activated says activated turns any passive role into an active role.
Neighbor is also a normal role
If it's not a normal combination just because no one has used it on a normal game before then it will never be normal due to the logic loop. It seems pretty fine to me.

Novice neighbor on the other hand is juryrigging a modifier understood to modify actives to modify a passive do that's a no

[Isis]

It'd be more interesting as a joat probably

[Isis]

Sometimes the wiki is a wiki. Novice neighbor is a no.

[Isis]

The reduced gating helps. Might still need a shot of two of tracker on one of the neighbors.

[Isis]

I think I'd pass that

[Isis]

I think the JOAT always sequences Psychologist, Cop, Tracker, I think the vast majority of people are going to do that.

If the activated neighbor dies, the mafia backup neighbor should still become a neighbor, based on current normal rule stuff, I believe.

[Isis]

Joat flips with the role name of all their abilities and rolecops the same way

i suggest daytalk for scum but you get to pick that in normal queue

[Isis]

Need all the role PMs, need general rules post (with stuff like prods etc), we are supposed to review those

[Isis]

1. We need results PMs 2. Need to clarify the factional kill is shared, currently the mafia technically have three nightkills. 3. Daytalk has to be enabled globally or not on the normal queue. The neighbors have to have daytalk if the mafia do. You could remove daytalk and add encryptor to the mafia and disable daytalk if you wanted to, I don't prefer it but you can. 4. I'm a little concerned about good faith paraphrasing still sharing modslips due to the "use your voice and your vote" refrain. The most obvious change to me would be to give the vanilla townies and mafia the same advice, since it's good play strategy for them to use their voice and their vote too (though the mafia should use it to eliminate town.)

This might make the vt pm quirky by mentioning voting twice, that you should do it and that you can't do anything else. But since the VT pm will be public thats less impactful than the PR PMs being a smidge quirky here, short of this change

[Isis]

Factional kill has unclear interaction with tracker, need player designations.

[Isis]

exercised is fine, it's ambiguous, most psychologist wordings are a rec. If a player asks, that is indeed how it works.


That reminds me about the thing I forgot - doc PM should say it blocks 1 kill attempt, current PM blocks any number

[Isis]

The criticism in #50 is showstopper-level enough that that's appropriate yeah