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Umlaut Jack of All Trades
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Umlaut Jack of All Trades
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I think an unopposed watcher is more dangerous than an unopposed JK, so if I'm choosing between them I'd rather keep the Ninja than the Strongman.
I'm confused about the balance because my understanding is that one JK as the only power role would be balanced (this is one of the newbie setups, right?) It seems like giving town a full watcher with only a 1-shot counter to that should lead to a game that's townsided in comparison. Is there any more fine tuning I can do on this?-
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Umlaut Jack of All Trades
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Umlaut Jack of All Trades
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Umlaut Jack of All Trades
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It just seems like so much has to coincide for that to happen. The goon has to die first, then the JK has to target the strongman on the same night the strongman uses his one shot. I feel like if the Mafia can orchestrate that sequence of events they kind of deserve the win. But I'll wait to hear from the others.
If there was some way the goon's flip could advertise "there's a strongman" without his actually being an enabler, that would resolve your concern as well, but I don't see how to do that within the normal guidelines.-
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Umlaut Jack of All Trades
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Umlaut Jack of All Trades
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Umlaut Jack of All Trades
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Wait, is this saying two 1-shot jailkeepers, or one 2-shot jailkeeper?
Either way, I'll take it. I mean, it's pretty far from the intent of my original setup ("the scum have to decide which powerful ability to counter each night"), but it seems like there's no way to make that work without giving scum too much power, so I'm willing to just do something else for now and go back to the drawing board with that idea.
If it's slightly townsided as mykonian suggested, would turning the goon into a backup strongman be an improvement?-
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Umlaut Jack of All Trades
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Umlaut Jack of All Trades
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Umlaut Jack of All Trades
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Revised setup:
1xMafia 1-Shot Strongman
1xMafia Goon
1xTown Watcher
1xTown 2-Shot Jailkeeper
5xVanilla Townie
Role PMS:
Spoiler: Mafia 1-Shot Strongman
Spoiler: Mafia Goon
Spoiler: Watcher
Spoiler: 1-Shot Jailkeeper
Spoiler: Vanilla Townie
One question about interactions: my understanding is that if a player is prevented from targeting someone, the watcher will not see his target visited by that player, but it's probably worth confirming that here before I proceed.-
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Umlaut Jack of All Trades
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Umlaut Jack of All Trades
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For completeness' sake, here is the actual role distribution (determined by random.org):- ThinkBig, Vanilla Townie
- Lil Uzi Vert, Town 2-Shot Jailkeeper
- Sobolev Space, Vanilla Townie
- Maxous, Mafia Goon
- temphdq, Mafia 1-Shot Strongman
- Tenshii, Town Watcher
- Hiraki, Vanilla Townie
- schadd_, Vanilla Townie
- Aj The Epic, Vanilla Townie
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Umlaut Jack of All Trades
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[redacted]Last edited by Nexus on Tue Mar 28, 2017 6:08 pm, edited 1 time in total.“There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say, ‘There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say there are two kinds of people in this world,and the other kind,’ and those whodon’tsay. Well, then there’s me.” — J.R. “Bob” Dobbs-
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Umlaut Jack of All Trades
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Wait no, someone delete that post before this thread goes public and contact me by PM if you want to comment on that.“There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say, ‘There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say there are two kinds of people in this world,and the other kind,’ and those whodon’tsay. Well, then there’s me.” — J.R. “Bob” Dobbs
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