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Post Post #75 (ISO) » Fri Sep 09, 2016 5:43 am

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I am going to paste some examples :
In post 887, Transcend wrote:i really hate insufferable cunts like you that deathtunnel me JJD.
In post 904, Transcend wrote:i have justified my reasons for lynching michel, you're just a fucking ignorant twat.
In post 911, Transcend wrote:
In post 908, JarJarDrinks wrote:here's another example of him having a read and then coming up w/ reasons after the fact:
In post 111, JarJarDrinks wrote:
In post 86, Transcend wrote:Shadow: Word to the wise, I never defended Blitzkrieg.

I said that the vote that Michel made on her was shit, and confronted him about it.
No the michel vote was only 1 thing you mentioned. And you didn't even talk about the michel vote right away. The first 2 posts where you "never defended" Blitzkrieg, you were seemingly responding to Thors vote:

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In post 19, Thor665 wrote:
Vote: Blitzkrieg
In post 20, Transcend wrote:this wagon sucks
In post 21, Thor665 wrote:Why do you town read Blitz?
In post 22, Transcend wrote:I don't

But the way she's been wagoned is dumb.

See, no mention of michel.
He says that the wagon sucked (implying that he townreads blitz). But when u confront him about it, he says he was just saying that Michels vote sucked. Which I proved wasn't true.
k we get it you're dumb in the head. i have stated several times that i didn't TR blitz, I just said that the vote Michel made was absolute garbage and overjustified nonsense. Am I smart enough to know that scum can bus? Yes.
In post 917, Transcend wrote:
In post 913, JarJarDrinks wrote:
In post 904, Transcend wrote:i have justified my reasons for lynching michel, you're just a fucking ignorant twat.
Finally on page 34, u made a single post that somewhat explains your read. Doesn't change what I wrote. You deathtunneled for 30+ pages w/o ever telling us why u scumread the person.
I HAVE EXPLAINED THE READ SEVERAL FUCKING TIMES YOU BLIND PIECE OF FUCKING SHIT.
In post 921, Transcend wrote:I HAVE EXPLAINED

SEVERAL.


FUCKING.


TIMES.

THAT THE VOTES THE MOTHERFUCKER HAS MADE IN THIS GAME.

APPEAR TO BE.

TACTICAL.

AND NOT.

GENUINE.

JESUS.

FUCKING.

CHRIST.
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Post Post #76 (ISO) » Fri Sep 09, 2016 5:47 am

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My personal opinion on this matter is that it would have been the best if he could be warned once.

But the ultimatum is serious and there are others who are requesting him gone, AND don't want thor (the person giving the ultimatum) to replace out.
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Post Post #77 (ISO) » Fri Sep 09, 2016 5:51 am

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Just for reference sake, if transcend is reported for these posts would he get banned/warned?
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Post Post #78 (ISO) » Fri Sep 09, 2016 6:24 am

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In post 77, chilledtea wrote:Just for reference sake, if transcend is reported for these posts would he get banned/warned?
I'm only one listmod and as such I can't definitively answer this question on my own, but my last few posts should hint at my choice on the matter.
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Post Post #79 (ISO) » Fri Sep 09, 2016 6:30 am

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Can I enforce something like WOTC when the game is going on? Or would that be abuse of mod powers?

To put it simply, I am more inclined to force replace him if more than one person wants that to happen. In this case, there's at least 3 who wouldn't mind him being replaced.
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Post Post #80 (ISO) » Fri Sep 09, 2016 6:37 am

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WOTC is for signups, but force replacement isn't something that needs an excessive amount of formal justification. As a mod, you have full control of who plays your game, and if you feel that a player is "over the line" then it's a choice within your jurisdiction to make. (An exception would be when a player is reported and we take action while they're still in the game, though when we decide on what action to take, what games the action would affect are taken into account.)

But my point is that "no personal attacks" is a part of your rules, and in putting it there you've committed yourself to enforcing it. I'm still not sure how you stand on that, but the rule should never be implemented just for show.
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Post Post #81 (ISO) » Fri Sep 09, 2016 6:40 am

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In the way that modkills for role PM screenshots or whatnot are done in order to help repair the integrity/health of the game, so are force replacements for behavior. Just noting that, as I personally don't think it should be a very difficult decision to make.
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Post Post #82 (ISO) » Fri Sep 09, 2016 6:44 am

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Obviously I intend on enforcing that rule. It is just I have never seen a force replacement for something like this, generally a warning is given first.
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Post Post #83 (ISO) » Fri Sep 09, 2016 8:13 am

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If you're unsure as to whether a mod action would be acceptable or not, you can ask a listmod. Luckily Marquis is a listmod, so the situation sorted itself out pretty well.

I would not get upset with a mod for force-replacing over something like that (although I'd have tried to stem it in the bud with a warning earlier if I were online as it was starting).

Note that according to the site rules, this is your call, but I'd strongly encourage you to force-replace in this situation. 917 in particular is well over the line.
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Post Post #84 (ISO) » Fri Sep 09, 2016 8:25 am

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I am convinced.

I will be force replacing transcend. I needed a second opinion and I got it.
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Post Post #85 (ISO) » Fri Sep 09, 2016 9:13 am

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1) Who makes sure that an alt is not replacing into your game?

2) Are hydras allowed to replace into normal games? (I presume not)
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Post Post #86 (ISO) » Fri Sep 09, 2016 9:46 am

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gigabyteTroubadour has replaced Transcend
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Post Post #87 (ISO) » Fri Sep 09, 2016 10:10 am

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1) The list moderators do checks for alt-related cheating now and again. (Regular moderators don't normally have enough information.)
2) No, they aren't.
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Post Post #88 (ISO) » Fri Sep 09, 2016 10:17 am

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(Also, note that it's perfectly fine for players to replace into a game on an alt, just so long as none of their other accounts is involved in the game.)
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Post Post #89 (ISO) » Sat Sep 10, 2016 5:30 am

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Hmm...would it be alright to give the dead thread link to the force replaced player? I am sorry for asking so many questions, don't know whether it would have any effects. Personal opinion would be to give it to him since I can't forsee any problems.
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Post Post #90 (ISO) » Sat Sep 10, 2016 7:18 am

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Did he ask for it? If not, I wouldn't give it in order to avoid trouble.
If he did, I'd feel a little wary of things going wrong but would probably allow it anyway.
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Post Post #91 (ISO) » Sat Sep 10, 2016 7:38 am

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Yeah, he did ask for it.

I think I will give it to him and ask him to stay out of trouble.
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Post Post #92 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 8:31 am

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MariaR has been lynched. She was
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Post Post #93 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2016 8:03 am

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Currently the night actions are :

1)MichelSableheart protects Shadow. [ Success ]
2)I Am Innocent tracks Blitzkrieg ( Your target visited I Am Innocent. )
3)JarJarDrinks checks Shadow_step for a gun ( Your target has a gun. )
5)Nero Cain kills Shadow [ Fails, protected by MichelSableheart ]
4)Shadow investigates Kraska ( Vanilla. )
5)Blitz kills IAI [ Success. ]

The parenthesis contains what is going to be sent in the PMs, whereas the square brackets contain the success/failure state of the action.
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Post Post #94 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:08 am

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Well, those night actions are quite a mess! Assuming they don't change, it'll be interesting to see what, if anything, people claim tomorrow.

Town had amazingly accurate targeting; they tracked scum to a kill, gunsmithed scum, and vigged scum. Meanwhile, the scum managed to negate all three actions: they killed the tracker, doctored the vig shot, and have a Vanilla Cop role that can claim out of the Gunsmith result. (That said, I have a suspicion that Shadow_step may end up getting lynched anyway.)

Scum came off rather better from the exchange because town need the help from power roles much more than scum do, and so cancelling all the town power out is a huge step forwards for scum. (At this point, the vig's only benefit from shooting is to confirm themself as a vig and thus town; they won't get a benefit from the kill itself due to even/odd considerations.)

All that said, Thor's night action hasn't been submitted yet, has it? I'd laugh so much if he decides to use it and protects IAI.
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Post Post #95 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:11 am

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Thor hasn't submitted. He is 2-shot so it makes some sense.
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Post Post #96 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:12 am

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I actually didn't realize that town vanilla cops have guns.
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Post Post #97 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:57 am

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JarJarDrinks has 2 shots left.
Nero Cain has 1 shots left.
Thor665 has 2 shots left.
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Post Post #98 (ISO) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 9:27 pm

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Blitzkrieg is titus's alt apparently. Titus wants replace blitzkrieg with herself. I am going to send titus a PM telling her to send a PM with blitzkrieg account to confirm.
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Post Post #99 (ISO) » Tue Sep 20, 2016 12:35 am

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