ThinkBig's Mini Normal Review
- mhsmith0
-
mhsmith0 Balancing Act
- mhsmith0
- Balancing Act
- Balancing Act
- Posts: 10830
- Joined: March 7, 2016
- Location: Phoenix, AZ
No. You can even have three goons vs 4-5 town PRs, though firnthta to work town pr would mainly have to be a bunch of garbage roles like bodyguard ic etc.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
Life is simply unfair, don't you think?- mykonian
-
mykonian Frisian Shoulder-Demon
- mykonian
- Frisian Shoulder-Demon
- Frisian Shoulder-Demon
- Posts: 11963
- Joined: August 27, 2008
nah, and that's the issue a bit. Scum start out with a huge head start in 3:10. You have to throw a lot at town to balance the night kill. Adding a RB then (I mean, you could cut that, if you want?) makes you do some of your hard work undone, and the RB does that quite efficiently sadly.In post 24, ThinkBig wrote:I know. But if I give town another role, don't I have to give scum another role?Surrender, imagine and of course wear something nice.- mhsmith0
-
mhsmith0 Balancing Act
- mhsmith0
- Balancing Act
- Balancing Act
- Posts: 10830
- Joined: March 7, 2016
- Location: Phoenix, AZ
You can see
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=29549
For a good sample of what kind of setups are common.
1827
Bg Neapolitan 1-shot vig 1-shot dayvig is a decent example of an all goon setup.
Given that you have day talk (basically better than encryptor), 1823
Doc tracker vig 1-shot bp
Vs goon encryptor 1-shot strongman
Is close to an all goon setup with day talkShowhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
Life is simply unfair, don't you think?- Firebringer
-
Firebringer Trail Blazer
- Firebringer
- Trail Blazer
- Trail Blazer
- Posts: 52501
- Joined: June 28, 2015
- Location: woofbringer
- Contact:
This game is extremely swingy, and with a full role blocker I think its actually scum sided even though theres a full cop.
BTW I think the Cop results are supposed to be "Mafia" "Not Mafia" or "No Result"
Also tracker should be "None" "[Players visited]", "No Result"
Can scum role blocker block and kill at same time?Show"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown- Firebringer
-
Firebringer Trail Blazer
- Firebringer
- Trail Blazer
- Trail Blazer
- Posts: 52501
- Joined: June 28, 2015
- Location: woofbringer
- Contact:
It would actually be easier to balance this wifi you weakened the role blocker and the cop in my opinion instead of just adding more roles.Show"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown- ThinkBig
-
ThinkBig Jack of All Trades
- ThinkBig
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 5530
- Joined: September 11, 2016
- Contact:
- ThinkBig
-
ThinkBig Jack of All Trades
- ThinkBig
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 5530
- Joined: September 11, 2016
- Contact:
- mykonian
-
mykonian Frisian Shoulder-Demon
- mykonian
- Frisian Shoulder-Demon
- Frisian Shoulder-Demon
- Posts: 11963
- Joined: August 27, 2008
that helps but won't be enough imo.In post 30, ThinkBig wrote:So maybe make it a 2-shot roleblocker?Surrender, imagine and of course wear something nice.- ThinkBig
-
ThinkBig Jack of All Trades
- ThinkBig
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 5530
- Joined: September 11, 2016
- Contact:
- mhsmith0
-
mhsmith0 Balancing Act
- mhsmith0
- Balancing Act
- Balancing Act
- Posts: 10830
- Joined: March 7, 2016
- Location: Phoenix, AZ
You think so? Gated Roleblocker (I'd probably do odd night instead of x-shot fwiw) vs cop and two decent power roles seems pretty balanced in my book.In post 32, mykonian wrote:
that helps but won't be enough imo.In post 30, ThinkBig wrote:So maybe make it a 2-shot roleblocker?Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
Life is simply unfair, don't you think?- ThinkBig
-
ThinkBig Jack of All Trades
- ThinkBig
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 5530
- Joined: September 11, 2016
- Contact:
- mhsmith0
-
mhsmith0 Balancing Act
- mhsmith0
- Balancing Act
- Balancing Act
- Posts: 10830
- Joined: March 7, 2016
- Location: Phoenix, AZ
@TB: Before going too far into a materially different setup, what kind of overall setup are you interested in running? It's fine to have either relatively fewer or relatively more PRs; ideally we get something that is structurally about what you have in mind, and then organize and balance around that.
For instance, if you were pretty happy with cop/joat/tracker vs rb, my personal gut is that we shouldn't need to move far off of that (for instance, we could do even night roleblocker for scum if everyone wants to make sure that night 1 is very likely to get a cop investigation off). OTOH, if the rb was only there for balance consideration in the first place (or if you thought that you had to have a scum PR), then we can talk about alternative setups like what balances an all-goon setup. But before we go too much into that, I wnat to make sure we've hit an overall format that you're comfortable with.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
Life is simply unfair, don't you think?- ThinkBig
-
ThinkBig Jack of All Trades
- ThinkBig
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 5530
- Joined: September 11, 2016
- Contact:
I'm not really sure. I want to run a 10:3 setup. I also want to have relatively more PRs.In post 36, mhsmith0 wrote:@TB: Before going too far into a materially different setup, what kind of overall setup are you interested in running? It's fine to have either relatively fewer or relatively more PRs; ideally we get something that is structurally about what you have in mind, and then organize and balance around that.
For instance, if you were pretty happy with cop/joat/tracker vs rb, my personal gut is that we shouldn't need to move far off of that (for instance, we could do even night roleblocker for scum if everyone wants to make sure that night 1 is very likely to get a cop investigation off). OTOH, if the rb was only there for balance consideration in the first place (or if you thought that you had to have a scum PR), then we can talk about alternative setups like what balances an all-goon setup. But before we go too much into that, I wnat to make sure we've hit an overall format that you're comfortable with.
The RB was there to balance out the cop/joat/tracker. What would a setup look like with all goons?I have officially retired this account. My new account is Virtuoso.- mykonian
-
mykonian Frisian Shoulder-Demon
- mykonian
- Frisian Shoulder-Demon
- Frisian Shoulder-Demon
- Posts: 11963
- Joined: August 27, 2008
- Firebringer
-
Firebringer Trail Blazer
- Firebringer
- Trail Blazer
- Trail Blazer
- Posts: 52501
- Joined: June 28, 2015
- Location: woofbringer
- Contact:
You can have a role blocker fine, I think a full role blocker is a little much though.
The new setup suggested seems fine, but it also seems a little away from what you described as trying to achieve here of "more prs"Show"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown- ThinkBig
-
ThinkBig Jack of All Trades
- ThinkBig
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 5530
- Joined: September 11, 2016
- Contact:
- mykonian
-
mykonian Frisian Shoulder-Demon
- mykonian
- Frisian Shoulder-Demon
- Frisian Shoulder-Demon
- Posts: 11963
- Joined: August 27, 2008
- mykonian
-
mykonian Frisian Shoulder-Demon
- mykonian
- Frisian Shoulder-Demon
- Frisian Shoulder-Demon
- Posts: 11963
- Joined: August 27, 2008
- ThinkBig
-
ThinkBig Jack of All Trades
- ThinkBig
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 5530
- Joined: September 11, 2016
- Contact:
- mykonian
-
mykonian Frisian Shoulder-Demon
- mykonian
- Frisian Shoulder-Demon
- Frisian Shoulder-Demon
- Posts: 11963
- Joined: August 27, 2008
- ThinkBig
-
ThinkBig Jack of All Trades
- ThinkBig
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 5530
- Joined: September 11, 2016
- Contact:
- ThinkBig
-
ThinkBig Jack of All Trades
- ThinkBig
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 5530
- Joined: September 11, 2016
- Contact:
- mykonian
-
mykonian Frisian Shoulder-Demon
- mykonian
- Frisian Shoulder-Demon
- Frisian Shoulder-Demon
- Posts: 11963
- Joined: August 27, 2008
- ThinkBig
-
ThinkBig Jack of All Trades
- ThinkBig
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 5530
- Joined: September 11, 2016
- Contact:
- Firebringer
-
Firebringer Trail Blazer
- Firebringer
- Trail Blazer
- Trail Blazer
- Posts: 52501
- Joined: June 28, 2015
- Location: woofbringer
- Contact:
I am wondering what is the proposed setup at this momentShow"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown - Firebringer
Copyright © MafiaScum. All rights reserved.
- ThinkBig
- mykonian
- ThinkBig
- ThinkBig
- mykonian
- ThinkBig
- mykonian
- mykonian
- ThinkBig
- Firebringer
- mykonian
- ThinkBig
- mhsmith0
- ThinkBig
- mhsmith0
- ThinkBig
- mykonian
- ThinkBig
- ThinkBig
- Firebringer
- Firebringer
- mhsmith0
- mykonian
- mhsmith0