drealmerz7's Mini Normal Review

[mhsmith0]

OK, please post your updated role PMs (and please clarify what the actual result of an "everyone dies" outcome is, and/or if it's conditional on more info, what that more info is)

[drealmerz7]

will do, for quickness right now:

each town PM wincon line will read "you win when all who oppose town are dead and there is at least 1 town player left alive"

each mafia wincon line will read "you win when all those who oppose mafia are dead and there is at least 1 mafia player left alive"

the SK wincon line will read "you win if everyone dies and you live"

[drealmerz7]

if everyone dies, it is a draw

there are no further conditionals to the wincons

[drealmerz7]

RULES

(Universal Site Rules also apply)

General

:

1.

Read everything I post, if it appears you have not, I will be PMing you

.

2.

If you have

ANY QUESTIONS

for me during the course of the game, PM them to me. All questions posed to me in the thread will be ignored

.

if you must ask to be replaced please make the request via PM, not in the thread

please try not to go V/LA, but if you must, please notify me via PM, not in the thread

3.

DO NOT edit your posts

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4.

No cryptoclaiming, no hidden or broken text, no spoiler trees >7

.

5.

NO SMOKING or VAPING of tobacco or synthetic products

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Gamesmanship

:

6.

Have fun! Remember it is your fellow gamers' goals to also have fun.

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Contention is part of the game, but don't let it get out of hand, if you feel someone is goading you, show others how scummy that is and try to get them lynched

.

7.

You must make at least one

quality-content

post

once every 72hours

. If you do not you will be prodded. After your 2nd prod you will have 24 hours to make a

quality-content post

, if fail to you will be replaced. There are no 3rd prods, you will be replaced at that point

.

8.

ANY

referece, allusion, mentioning at all of ANY other ongoing games (even mentioning the fact that you are in them) is

FORBIDDEN

. Don't even think about other games when you're thinking about this game, just to be safe!

Game specifics

:

9.

Days will last ~12 days. Subject to change. Check your most recent VC for the most current deadline!

Nights will last ~3 days, followed by a resolution period

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10.

To vote for a player you

MUST

use the

VOTE: TAG

if you wish to not be voting for a player, you

MUST

use the

UNVOTE: TAG

and their name to unvote them

.

No exceptions will be counted. Check your most recent vote-count for accuracy and notify me via PM if your vote is not where you want it and I will make the correction ASAP

.

You may

VOTE: No Lynch.

If no majority of votes are on a player at the time of deadline, No Lynch will be achieved

.

example of how voting works

:

VOTE: SuspiciousMan - to cast your first vote of the Day, then you must:

UNVOTE: SuspiciousMan - in order to clear your vote so that you may then:

VOTE: SuspiciousWoman - to cast a vote on a new player

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Majority lynch with hammer mechanic is in effect

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11.

You may request a vote-count by entering

"

@VC, please

" (or some variant, bolded and underlined, you may also vote:tag it)

-

I will do my best to comply in a timely manner

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Spoiler: Vanilla Town ROLE PM

ROLE PM

Welcome to mini-normal 1891 #player#!

you are

Vanilla Town

- your power is your vote, use it wisely!

- you win when all who oppose

Town

are dead and there is at least 1

Town

player left alive

ENJOY!!!

please respond with confirmation that you understand your role and alignment, or with questions if not

[drealmerz7]

do you think the unvote strictness is too much for a normal? I intend to have it when I do themes because of "reasons"

[drealmerz7]

1 more and we're full

[mhsmith0]

1) Why are day phases 12 days and nights 3? 2 day night phases is pretty standard. wrt 12 days, while I'm probably ok with you not being upfront with players about what makes it subject to change, I'd like to know what sort of things might change it. Would you ever cut a deadline short? If so, I think you need to decide pregame (and tell us) under what circumstances and for what reasons you might do that. People discovering a deadline was moved forward when they thought it was later could reaosnably be upset with you.

2) Why should people not announce V/LA in thread? I get that you'd only count V/LA if people tell you, but you're kinda implying that there's a rule against saying V/LA in thread

3) What do you mean by "spoiler trees"?

4) You sort of imply people need to unvote before voting someone else. I'd revise language to "you MUST use the UNVOTE: TAG and their name to unvote them or use the VOTE: TAG to vote someone else. No exceptions will be counted"

[drealmerz7]

the amount of players makes it subject to change, once the game is down to 8players I think it shouldn't be longer than 10day Days, and once it is down to 5 I think it is good to put the deadline at 7days a Day, but it doesn't need to be down to the hour, I think being so strict about the hour is silly, though with the countdown thing it makes it handy to be more accurate, deadlines are a strict thing to me, ever

[drealmerz7]

14days is a little too long for 13players I think, 12 is fair, but doesn't need to be strict/strict is bad because say if discussion is going strong and healthy and they are really playing a fun game/the game is going way, I'm not going to cut it off and FORCE them to decide a lynch just because of some pre-set idea of what is good, I'll want to extend it a little to give them time, if it seems good for the game

[mhsmith0]

the amount of players makes it subject to change, once the game is down to 8players I think it shouldn't be longer than 10day Days, and once it is down to 5 I think it is good to put the deadline at 7days a Day, but it doesn't need to be down to the hour, I think being so strict about the hour is silly, though with the countdown thing it makes it handy to be more accurate, deadlines are a strict thing to me, ever

So you'll stick to deadlines during a day phase but will vary deadlines between day phases? If so that's fine, but I'd just as soon say something like "Day one will last 12 days. Subsequent days may be shorter. Extensions, if any, will be explicitly announced. Check your most recent VC for the most current deadline!"

[drealmerz7]

it won't be a strict 12 days down to the hour though, and if for some reason I am not around on day 12 and discussion isn't STALLED TO DEATH it's no big deal, so I put ~12days

I also think/have evidence to make me think non-strict deadlines make towns a little more "okay not sure when deadline is exactly going to fall so let's make sure we get all the discusssing done that we need done and the lynch achieved we want before it ends"

[drealmerz7]

say, if at day 12 I get PMs or complaints from a majority about wanting more time, I'm open to giving them 2 more days

unless that is uncool? I think it is good moderating though to allow for flexibility for the players to do what is good for the game

[drealmerz7]

and I think it is healthy for scum to have 3 days at least to talk and decide, especially with no Day Chat

and then I want to make sure I have all the NA's resolutions checked with you before finalizing everything/starting the Day, so I give it time for that too

[drealmerz7]

not that I anticipate having any problems with it, I am good at making sure all is 100% when I do things

the game I modded on my HS was very very elaborate and complex and it went no-sweat - my assist mod. is super-experienced mafia mod and player veteran guy and he was with me as I developed it and pretty much had like 2 minor inputs about things when I was all done and then was like "yep looks good to go" and it went smoooothly (did have to modkill a guy who needed modkilled though! bummmmmer)

[drealmerz7]

luckily he was modkilled superearly because he was no-good right from the get-go and it didn't really have an impact on the game (and I didn't flip him because he had been zero-impact/zero-content pretty much and it was so early in the game)

game was sweeeet, it is the one I am going to re-run on here for my first large theme, once I do some tweaking to it (have done some already, but still to do more, not really focused on that until after my mini-theme is 100% done, which it almost is)

[drealmerz7]

I have 1 stand-by /replacement so far in ConManMick, if needed

will look to get more too, just in case

[drealmerz7]

and now ThinkBig

[drealmerz7]

and now JaeReed

[drealmerz7]

I've also PMed bjc0303 and Fart asking them if they've played mafia before (just so I know) - also thougth about asking Desully the same thing, but didn't

I also PMed Lil Uzi Vert telling him I was aware he's replaced out of games more than makes me comfortable and to consider /outting if he thinks it even slightly possible he might ask for a replacement in mine. I also told him that if he replaced out he'd be banned from any future games of mine.

I sent a less severe yet similar message to alban.

LUV responded that he would not replace out and understood.

alban responded said he would not replace out and appreciated the diligence

[drealmerz7]

no responses yet from bjc0303 or Fart

oh, I will also require 11/13 confirmations before starting the game, but I will not make that public knowledge

[mhsmith0]

say, if at day 12 I get PMs or complaints from a majority about wanting more time, I'm open to giving them 2 more days

unless that is uncool? I think it is good moderating though to allow for flexibility for the players to do what is good for the game

It's fine to have extensions. What you don't want to do is cut a deadline short or imply to players that you're willing to do this barring very unusual circumstances.

[drealmerz7]

what I really want to do to be more explicit, is to let an APPROXIMATE deadline known at the start of each Day, but I want to be able to say it could happen within a window of, say, 12 hours, so they know "it will fall sometime in the next 12 hours" (whether that is in 5 minutes or 12 hours down to the second is unknown)

is that okay?

[drealmerz7]

I could even explicitly tell everyone "lynch does not need to occur by deadline, but I will close the thread at an unspecified point anwhere from 6-14hours from when the timer runs out"

[drealmerz7]

Zachstralkita is available for 4th replacement potentially, if he is too busy if/when the time comes he might have to decline

4 fucking replacements would be horrid, but, always be prepared! I have a few other messages about /replacementing out awaiting replies too

[drealmerz7]

Fart has replied - they have played before / are an alt.

bjc0303 has replied - they have played before