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Post Post #50 (ISO) » Thu Apr 06, 2017 9:00 am

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How each role is flipped:

Spoiler: Vanilla Town
Vanilla TownieWelcome, X. You are a
Vanilla Townie
.

You have no special abilities.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.


Spoiler: Town One-Guilty Cop
Town One-Guilty CopWelcome, X. You are a
Town One-Guilty Cop
.

You may target one player per night phase. You'll receive one of these results:
Innocent
,
Guilty
or
No result
. As soon you receive a
Guilty
result, you'll stop functioning.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.


Spoiler: Town 2-shot Vigilante
Town 2-shot VigilanteWelcome, X. You are a
Town 2-shot Vigilante
.

Twice per game, you may target one player to nightkill.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.


Spoiler: Town Neighbor Weak Vigilante
Town Neighbor Weak VigilanteWelcome, X. You are a
Town Neighbor Weak Vigilante
.

Each night, you may target one player to nightkill. However, if you target non-town, you'll die. You may also talk in your neighborhood during day and night.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.


Spoiler: Town Non-Consecutive Doctor
Town Non-Consecutive DoctorWelcome, X. You are a
Town Non-Consecutive Doctor
.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from one nightkill during that night phase. However, if you use your action one night, you may not use your action the next night. You cannot target yourself.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.


Spoiler: Town Innocent Neighbor
Town Innocent NeighborWelcome, X. You are a
Town Innocent Neighbor
.

You may talk in your neighborhood during day and night. Anytime you wish, you may announce in bold you're town at your neighborhood PT and I'll modconfirm you as soon as possible.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.


Spoiler: Town Neighbor
Town NeighborWelcome, X. You are a
Town Neighbor
.

You may talk in your neighborhood during day and night.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.


Spoiler: Mafia Goon
Mafia GoonWelcome, X. You are a
Mafia Goon
.

Your partners are [REDACTED].

You share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional PT, located here, where you may talk during day and night.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.


Spoiler: Mafia Gunsmith
Mafia GunsmithWelcome, X. You are a
Mafia Gunsmith
.

Your partners are [REDACTED].

You may target one player per night phase. You'll receive one of these results:
Positive
,
Negative
or
No result
. You'll get
Positive
if you target Groupscum (except Traitors and Doctors), Cops, Vigilantes, Gunsmiths, Role Cops, Vanilla Cops, Backups of roles with guns and JoATs that have any of these listed powers.

You share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional PT, located here, where you may talk during day and night.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.


Spoiler: Mafia Rolestopper
Mafia RolestopperWelcome, X. You are a
Mafia Rolestopper
.

Your partners are [REDACTED].

You may target one player per night. You will cause anyone who targets this player action to fail. You cannot target yourself.

You share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a roleblock in the same night phase. You also share a factional PT, located here, where you may talk during night phases only.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.
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Post Post #51 (ISO) » Thu Apr 06, 2017 9:11 am

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Town One-Guilty CopYou received an
Innocent
result on X.

You received an
Guilty
result on X.

You received no result.


Mafia GunsmithYou received a
Positive
result on X.

You received a
Negative
result on X.

You received no result.


Town Innocent NeighborX is aligned with the
Town
.


DeathYou died! However, you may still talk here.
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Post Post #52 (ISO) » Thu Apr 06, 2017 9:20 am

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Does "You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring." sounds singleball?

Should I change it to "You win when all other factions have been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring."?
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Post Post #53 (ISO) » Thu Apr 06, 2017 9:32 am

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Should absolutely be 'all other factions'
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Post Post #54 (ISO) » Thu Apr 06, 2017 9:32 am

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if your wincon is 'town' then a scum flip confirms there exists no serial killer
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Post Post #55 (ISO) » Thu Apr 06, 2017 9:43 am

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Spoiler: Day 1 VC
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Deadline: (expired on 2017-04-20 16:34:00)


Spoiler: When night starts
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Spoiler: Kills during the night
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Post Post #56 (ISO) » Thu Apr 06, 2017 9:48 am

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Updating...
In post 48, Creature wrote:
Spoiler: Mafia Goon
Mafia GoonWelcome, X. You are a
Mafia Goon
.

Your partners are Y, who is a
Mafia Gunsmith
, Z, who is a
Mafia Rolestopper
, and W, who is a
Mafia Goon
.

You share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional PT, located here, where you may talk during day and night.

You win when all other factions have been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.


Spoiler: Mafia Gunsmith
Mafia GunsmithWelcome, X. You are a
Mafia Gunsmith
.

Your partners are Y, who is a
Mafia Rolestopper
, Z, who is a
Mafia Goon
, and W, who is a
Mafia Goon
.

You may target one player per night phase. You'll receive one of these results:
Positive
,
Negative
or
No result
. You'll get
Positive
if you target Groupscum (except Traitors and Doctors), Cops, Vigilantes, Gunsmiths, Role Cops, Vanilla Cops, Backups of roles with guns and JoATs that have any of these listed powers.

You share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional PT, located here, where you may talk during day and night.

You win when all other factions have been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.


Spoiler: Mafia Rolestopper
Mafia RolestopperWelcome, X. You are a
Mafia Rolestopper
.

Your partners are Y, who is a
Mafia Gunsmith
, Z, who is a
Mafia Goon
, and W, who is a
Mafia Goon
.

You may target one player per night. You will cause anyone who targets this player action to fail. You cannot target yourself.

You share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a roleblock in the same night phase. You also share a factional PT, located here, where you may talk during night phases only.

You win when all other factions have been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.
In post 50, Creature wrote:How each role is flipped:

Spoiler: Mafia Goon
Mafia GoonWelcome, X. You are a
Mafia Goon
.

Your partners are [REDACTED].

You share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional PT, located here, where you may talk during day and night.

You win when all other factions have been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.


Spoiler: Mafia Gunsmith
Mafia GunsmithWelcome, X. You are a
Mafia Gunsmith
.

Your partners are [REDACTED].

You may target one player per night phase. You'll receive one of these results:
Positive
,
Negative
or
No result
. You'll get
Positive
if you target Groupscum (except Traitors and Doctors), Cops, Vigilantes, Gunsmiths, Role Cops, Vanilla Cops, Backups of roles with guns and JoATs that have any of these listed powers.

You share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional PT, located here, where you may talk during day and night.

You win when all other factions have been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.


Spoiler: Mafia Rolestopper
Mafia RolestopperWelcome, X. You are a
Mafia Rolestopper
.

Your partners are [REDACTED].

You may target one player per night. You will cause anyone who targets this player action to fail. You cannot target yourself.

You share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a roleblock in the same night phase. You also share a factional PT, located here, where you may talk during night phases only.

You win when all other factions have been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.
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Post Post #57 (ISO) » Thu Apr 06, 2017 9:57 am

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Oh right, I forgot:

Should mafia be allowed to both nightkill and use their action?
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Post Post #58 (ISO) » Thu Apr 06, 2017 10:18 am

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I guess I'd not allow allow one mafia member to nightkill and use their action the same night.
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Post Post #59 (ISO) » Thu Apr 06, 2017 11:32 am

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Recommend against it, or if you do making that public knowledge
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Post Post #60 (ISO) » Thu Apr 06, 2017 11:42 am

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So don't allow simultaneous nightkill and night action?

Also, if someone asks about it, should I say it's not allowed?
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Post Post #61 (ISO) » Thu Apr 06, 2017 11:44 am

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I recommend making it public knowledge no matter what you choose but either way is fine

though I strongly recommend not making it unknown while allowing it
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Post Post #62 (ISO) » Thu Apr 06, 2017 11:54 am

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like putting that mafia can't both kill and action in the rules (or even announcing the rule in the upcoming games thread)?
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Post Post #63 (ISO) » Thu Apr 06, 2017 11:58 am

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Yeah, I would put it in the ruleset explicitly.
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Post Post #64 (ISO) » Thu Apr 06, 2017 12:02 pm

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Rules:

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Do:
  • Follow the site rules here.
  • Play to win.
  • Be respectful.
  • Be active.
  • If you have questions about your role, ask them by PM.
Don't:
  • Don't discuss ongoing games.
  • Don't copy, quote or screenshot your role PM, mod communications or anything that isn't public.
  • Don't pretend to break the rules.
  • Don't use very small, invisible or encrypted text.
  • Don't write your posts almost entirely with shade of blue (
    #0000FF
    to
    #00008F
    ). You may use them as long it doesn't look like a mod post.


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Deadlines
  • Day 1 will last 14 (real life) days. While all subsequent days will last 10 (real life) days.
  • Nights will last 2 (real life) days.
  • Night may end earlier if every single alive player requests to end the night.
  • If you don't submit your night action, I'll take that as a no action.
  • I'll only extend the deadline if it's about to end and I need replacements.
Voting
  • All votes must be done with vote tags or bold tags, like VOTE: Someone or
    vote: Someone
    . If it looks like a vote, it'll be counted.
  • You may also vote nolynch.
  • A majority is reached if more than half the players (x>50%) have voted the same player/nolynch.
  • If the deadline ends, the player (nolynch included) with the highest number of votes will be lynched.
  • If there's a tie, the player who held the higher vote total most recently will be lynched. Example: If player A has five votes, player B has three votes and someone unvotes player A to vote player B, Player A would be lynched.
  • Only if there's no way I can break the tie (such no votes being made the entire dayphase) it'll end in a default nolynch.
P.S.: I won't edit your posts.


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Prods
  • If your last post was over 47 hours ago, you'll be prodded.
  • If you yet haven't posted after 24 hours since the prod, I'll starting searching your replacement. You may return into your slot.
  • If you have to be prodded twice in the dayphase (excluding Day 1), I'll automatically search for your replacement. You can't return to your slot.
  • If you were to receive your third prod, you'll be force-replaced. You will be unable to return to your slot.
  • I'll remove one prod from your prod counter if you stay two entire dayphases without being prodded.
  • If I notice you're consistently prod-dodging, I'll automatically prod you.
V/LAs and Replacing
  • V/LAs must be announced in PMs and they must be atleast 3 days. Remember to set you're V/LA in your profile (ucp.php?i=vla&mode=settings) because I may miss them.
  • By announcing V/LA, I'll extend your prodtimer to 72 hours rather than 48 hours.
  • If you absolutely can't post anything for over 72 hours, you may want to talk with me. You may need to replace out.
  • Consider voluntarily replacing out if you won't play (either because you can't or you don't feel like playing). You may replace back into your slot (unless you're abusing it.
Observation: Replace back only applies if your replacement replaces out.


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  • This game uses plurality lynch mechanism.
  • A single player can't both kill and take another action.
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Vanilla TownieWelcome, X. You are a
Vanilla Townie
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You have no special abilities.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.
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Post Post #65 (ISO) » Thu Apr 06, 2017 12:06 pm

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V/LA link is broken.

Going to read through the role PMs one more time.
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Post Post #66 (ISO) » Thu Apr 06, 2017 12:06 pm

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Everyone copied my google link grr
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Post Post #67 (ISO) » Thu Apr 06, 2017 12:07 pm

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\You may target one player per night. You will cause anyone who targets this player action to fail. You cannot target yourself.
This still ought to be reworded.
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Post Post #68 (ISO) » Thu Apr 06, 2017 12:09 pm

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1-Shot cop should be clarified in the role PM what stop functioning means. Be clear that that means you may no longer target people with that action.

Otherwise I am ready to pass it.
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Post Post #69 (ISO) » Thu Apr 06, 2017 12:15 pm

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Rules:

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Do:
  • Follow the site rules here.
  • Play to win.
  • Be respectful.
  • Be active.
  • If you have questions about your role, ask them by PM.
Don't:
  • Don't discuss ongoing games.
  • Don't copy, quote or screenshot your role PM, mod communications or anything that isn't public.
  • Don't pretend to break the rules.
  • Don't use very small, invisible or encrypted text.
  • Don't write your posts almost entirely with shade of blue (
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    to
    #00008F
    ). You may use them as long it doesn't look like a mod post.


G
a
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F
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Deadlines
  • Day 1 will last 14 (real life) days. While all subsequent days will last 10 (real life) days.
  • Nights will last 2 (real life) days.
  • Night may end earlier if every single alive player requests to end the night.
  • If you don't submit your night action, I'll take that as a no action.
  • I'll only extend the deadline if it's about to end and I need replacements.
Voting
  • All votes must be done with vote tags or bold tags, like VOTE: Someone or
    vote: Someone
    . If it looks like a vote, it'll be counted.
  • You may also vote nolynch.
  • A majority is reached if more than half the players (x>50%) have voted the same player/nolynch.
  • If the deadline ends, the player (nolynch included) with the highest number of votes will be lynched.
  • If there's a tie, the player who held the higher vote total most recently will be lynched. Example: If player A has five votes, player B has three votes and someone unvotes player A to vote player B, Player A would be lynched.
  • Only if there's no way I can break the tie (such no votes being made the entire dayphase) it'll end in a default nolynch.
P.S.: I won't edit your posts.


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Prods
  • If your last post was over 47 hours ago, you'll be prodded.
  • If you yet haven't posted after 24 hours since the prod, I'll starting searching your replacement. You may return into your slot.
  • If you have to be prodded twice in the dayphase (excluding Day 1), I'll automatically search for your replacement. You can't return to your slot.
  • If you were to receive your third prod, you'll be force-replaced. You will be unable to return to your slot.
  • I'll remove one prod from your prod counter if you stay two entire dayphases without being prodded.
  • If I notice you're consistently prod-dodging, I'll automatically prod you.
V/LAs and Replacing
  • V/LAs must be announced in PMs and they must be atleast 3 days. Remember to set you're V/LA in your profile because I may miss them.
  • By announcing V/LA, I'll extend your prodtimer to 72 hours rather than 48 hours.
  • If you absolutely can't post anything for over 72 hours, you may want to talk with me. You may need to replace out.
  • Consider voluntarily replacing out if you won't play (either because you can't or you don't feel like playing). You may replace back into your slot (unless you're abusing it.
Observation: Replace back only applies if your replacement replaces out.


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  • Daytalk is active.
  • This game uses plurality lynch mechanism.
  • A single player can't both kill and take another action.
Spoiler: Sample Vanilla Town Role PM
Vanilla TownieWelcome, X. You are a
Vanilla Townie
.

You have no special abilities.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.
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Post Post #70 (ISO) » Thu Apr 06, 2017 12:16 pm

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In post 67, RadiantCowbells wrote:
\You may target one player per night.
You will cause anyone who targets this player action to fail.
You cannot target yourself.
This still ought to be reworded.
I thought about replacing the bolded with "Any action on that player won't succeed"

If not, do you have suggestions?
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Post Post #71 (ISO) » Thu Apr 06, 2017 12:18 pm

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Spoiler: Town One-Guilty Cop
Town One-Guilty CopWelcome, X. You are a
Town One-Guilty Cop
.

You may target one player per night phase. You'll receive one of these results:
Innocent
,
Guilty
or
No result
. However, if you receive a
Guilty
result, you may no longer use your ability.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.
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Post Post #72 (ISO) » Thu Apr 06, 2017 6:28 pm

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I am fine with that bolded text.

If that's updated I pass.
2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.
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Post Post #73 (ISO) » Fri Apr 07, 2017 11:29 am

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Spoiler: Mafia Rolestopper
Mafia RolestopperWelcome, X. You are a
Mafia Rolestopper
.

Your partners are Y, who is a
Mafia Gunsmith
, Z, who is a
Mafia Goon
, and W, who is a
Mafia Goon
.

You may target one player per night. Any action on that player won't succeed. You cannot target yourself.

You share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a roleblock in the same night phase. You also share a factional PT, located here, where you may talk during night phases only.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.


How it would be if flipped:

Spoiler: Mafia Rolestopper
Mafia RolestopperWelcome, X. You are a
Mafia Rolestopper
.

Your partners are [REDACTED].

You may target one player per night. Any action on that player won't succeed. You cannot target yourself.

You share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a roleblock in the same night phase. You also share a factional PT, located here, where you may talk during night phases only.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.
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Post Post #74 (ISO) » Fri Apr 07, 2017 12:17 pm

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I'll modconfirm you as soon as possible.
Should specify the mod confirmation is within the neighborhood.
Otherwise good to go.
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