Gamma Emerald's Large Normal Review
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To confirm, as an example, if "the Vig" shoots player x but is roleblocked by the JK/Maf!RB/Town!WRB, player x is not killed; and, the Tracker get a "the Vig visited no one."In post 68, Gamma Emerald wrote:Note: tracker will get no visit on a roleblocked PR<(") | (")>- Gamma Emerald
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YesIn post 78, PenguinPower wrote:
To confirm, as an example, if "the Vig" shoots player x but is roleblocked by the JK/Maf!RB/Town!WRB, player x is not killed; and, the Tracker get a "the Vig visited no one."In post 68, Gamma Emerald wrote:Note: tracker will get no visit on a roleblocked PR<Embrace The Void>
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Thinking on it now if the WRB visits mafia and is not roleblocked, or attempts to visit a mafia roleblocker blocking it, it dies, but if it attempts visit mafia and the jailkeeper targets it, or it attempts to target a mafia other than the roleblocker and the mafia roleblocker targets it, it lives. Of course the willbooster targeting the WRB means if it targets mafia it dies.<Embrace The Void>
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Still think the setup will be fairly swingy overall but that's almost always going to be the case when you have a role like tracker/vig/weak roleblocker in the game. I'd still say it's /fairly/ balanced overall and am pretty fine with it being run as is although there's a few iffy role interactions here. I'd probably suggest rephrasing the Town Non Consecutive Night Jailkeepers role PM though, it's a little unclear at the moment in my books. The rest of the role PM's seem fine.
Think for this game you should probably have both yourself and the backup mod check NAR re; the night actions submitted before starting each day phase, there's potential for mistakes here otherwise. If you ever need something checked I'm happy to be PM'ed. I'm mostly fine to /pass this unless PP has some recommended changes.- PenguinPower
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Confirming that you mean that WRB action supersedes MRB action. Also, if the Willbooster, JK, and MRB target WRB, then WRB would live.In post 83, Gamma Emerald wrote:Thinking on it now if the WRB visits mafia and is not roleblocked, or attempts to visit a mafia roleblocker blocking it, it dies, but if it attempts visit mafia and the jailkeeper targets it, or it attempts to target a mafia other than the roleblocker and the mafia roleblocker targets it, it lives. Of course the willbooster targeting the WRB means if it targets mafia it dies.
If so, then probably just change the JK PM to read "on non-consecutive nights" to match the flow of the others, and I'm good. What about it leaves you unclear, Reg?
Swing can still be balanced and normal (learned that from my modded game), so I'm good to pass given the above.<(") | (")>- Regfan
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Yes.In post 85, PenguinPower wrote:Confirming that you mean that WRB action supersedes MRB action. Also, if the Willbooster, JK, and MRB target WRB, then WRB would live.
Got it on the JK wording, will fix.
If so, then probably just change the JK PM to read "on non-consecutive nights" to match the flow of the others, and I'm good. What about it leaves you unclear, Reg?
Swing can still be balanced and normal (learned that from my modded game), so I'm good to pass given the above.<Embrace The Void>
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1 Town Weak RoleblockerHello, and welcome to Large Normal XXX!
You are aTown Willbooster. You have your voice and vote. You may also target a player each night to make them immune to one roleblock.
You win when all antitown roles are eliminated and at least 1 town player remains alive.
1 Town Non Consecutive Night JailkeeperHello, and welcome to Large Normal XXX!
You are aTown Weak Roleblocker. You have your voice and vote. You may also target a player each night to prevent their action from executing. However, if you target an antitown role you will die.
You win when all antitown roles are eliminated and at least 1 town player remains alive.
1 Town TrackerHello, and welcome to Large Normal XXX!
You are aTown Non Consecutive Night Jailkeeper. You have your voice and vote. You may also target any player on non-consecutive nights to protect them from any kill attempts that night as well as prevent their action from executing.
You win when all antitown roles are eliminated and at least 1 town player remains alive.
1 Town VigilanteHello, and welcome to Large Normal XXX!
You are aTown Tracker. You have your voice and vote. You may also target a player each night to discover who they visited in the night. You will get results in the form of "X visited Y", "X visited no one", or "No result".
You win when all antitown roles are eliminated and at least 1 town player remains alive.
9 Vanilla TowniesHello, and welcome to Large Normal XXX!
You are aTown Vigilante. You have your voice and vote. You may also target a player each night to attempt to kill them.
You win when all antitown roles are eliminated and at least 1 town player remains alive.
1 Mafia RoleblockerHello, and welcome to Large Normal XXX!
You are aVanilla Townie. You have your voice and vote.
You win when all antitown roles are eliminated and at least 1 town player remains alive.
1 Mafia Odd Night NeapolitanHello, and welcome to Large Normal XXX!
You are aMafia Roleblocker. You have your voice and vote. You also have a factional chat, located here, and a factional kill which you may send one person to do each night. You may also target a player each night to prevent their action from executing.
You win when your team comprises 50 percent of all players or nothing can stop it.
2 Mafia GoonsHello, and welcome to Large Normal XXX!
You are aMafia Odd Night Neapolitan. You have your voice and vote. You also have a factional chat, located here, and a factional kill which you may send one person to do each night. You may also target a player each odd-numbered night to discover whether they are a Vanilla Townie or not. You will get your results in the form of "X is Vanilla Town", "X is not Vanilla Town", or "No result".
You win when your team comprises 50 percent of all players or nothing can stop it.Hello, and welcome to Large Normal XXX!
You are aMafia Goon. You have your voice and vote. You also have a factional chat, located here, and a factional kill which you may send one person to do each night.
You win when your team comprises 50 percent of all players or nothing can stop it.<Embrace The Void>
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Also updated the OP with the new reviewer. Left a mention to Ceph since he was involved.
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Can I just real quickly suggest a minor change to the jailkeeper role PM?
I think that the word 'roleblock' should be used to make it clear later in the game that it counts as a roleblock.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.- Nexus
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1 Town Weak RoleblockerHello, and welcome to Large Normal XXX!
You are aTown Willbooster. You have your voice and vote. You may also target a player each night to make them immune to one roleblock.
You win when all antitown roles are eliminated and at least 1 town player remains alive.
1 Town Non Consecutive Night JailkeeperHello, and welcome to Large Normal XXX!
You are aTown Weak Roleblocker. You have your voice and vote. You may also target a player each night to prevent their action from executing. However, if you target an antitown role you will die.
You win when all antitown roles are eliminated and at least 1 town player remains alive.
1 Town TrackerHello, and welcome to Large Normal XXX!
You are aTown Non Consecutive Night Jailkeeper. You have your voice and vote. You may also target any player on non-consecutive nights to protect them from any kill attempts that night as well as roleblocking them, prevent their action from executing.
You win when all antitown roles are eliminated and at least 1 town player remains alive.
1 Town VigilanteHello, and welcome to Large Normal XXX!
You are aTown Tracker. You have your voice and vote. You may also target a player each night to discover who they visited in the night. You will get results in the form of "X visited Y", "X visited no one", or "No result".
You win when all antitown roles are eliminated and at least 1 town player remains alive.
9 Vanilla TowniesHello, and welcome to Large Normal XXX!
You are aTown Vigilante. You have your voice and vote. You may also target a player each night to attempt to kill them.
You win when all antitown roles are eliminated and at least 1 town player remains alive.
1 Mafia RoleblockerHello, and welcome to Large Normal XXX!
You are aVanilla Townie. You have your voice and vote.
You win when all antitown roles are eliminated and at least 1 town player remains alive.
1 Mafia Odd Night NeapolitanHello, and welcome to Large Normal XXX!
You are aMafia Roleblocker. You have your voice and vote. You also have a factional chat, located here, and a factional kill which you may send one person to do each night. You may also target a player each night to prevent their action from executing.
You win when your team comprises 50 percent of all players or nothing can stop it.
2 Mafia GoonsHello, and welcome to Large Normal XXX!
You are aMafia Odd Night Neapolitan. You have your voice and vote. You also have a factional chat, located here, and a factional kill which you may send one person to do each night. You may also target a player each odd-numbered night to discover whether they are a Vanilla Townie or not. You will get your results in the form of "X is Vanilla Town", "X is not Vanilla Town", or "No result".
You win when your team comprises 50 percent of all players or nothing can stop it.Hello, and welcome to Large Normal XXX!
You are aMafia Goon. You have your voice and vote. You also have a factional chat, located here, and a factional kill which you may send one person to do each night.
You win when your team comprises 50 percent of all players or nothing can stop it.<Embrace The Void>
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