Nexus' Mini Normal Review

[Nexus]

Mafia Goon
Mafia Goon
Mafia Doctor

1-Shot BP SK

Rolecop
FBI Agent
Roleblocker
VT x 6

[Nexus]

Rules post:

Game Rules:

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- If you are being a dick, you run the risk of force-replacement or modkill. You may or may not be warned.

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[Nexus]

Greetings XXX, you are a

Mafia Goon

, alongside XXX

(Mafia Goon)

and

Mafia Doctor

.

You have the ability to kill one person per night (as a group), which you must PM me, and during the day you must blend in with the Town, so you have a vote. You may discuss the game at any time here.

You win when you control a majority and no-one can stop this. Please confirm by replying to this PM

Greetings XXX, you are a

Mafia Goon

, alongside XXX

(Mafia Goon)

and

Mafia Doctor

.

You have the ability to kill one person per night (as a group), which you must PM me, and during the day you must blend in with the Town, so you have a vote. You may discuss the game at any time here.


You win when you control a majority and no-one can stop this. Please confirm by replying to this PM

Greetings XXX, you are a

Mafia Doctor

, alongside XXX

(Mafia Goon)

and

(Mafia Goon)

.

You have the ability to kill one person per night (as a group), which you must PM me, and during the day you must blend in with the Town, so you have a vote. You also have the ability to protect one player from a kill during the night by PMing me their name. You may discuss the game at any time here.


You win when you control a majority and no-one can stop this. Please confirm by replying to this PM

Greetings XXX, you are a

1-Shot Bulletproof Serial Killer

.

You have the ability to kill one person per night, which you must PM me, and during the day you must blend in with the Town, so you have a vote. Additionally, you will survive one attempt to kill you at night. You will not be informed when you lose this.

You win when you are the last person standing. Please confirm by replaying to this PM

Greetings XXX, you are a

Town Rolecop

You have the ability to find out a player's role at night by PMing me their name, and, if nothing stops it, you will receive a PM detailing their role. During the day you have a vote.

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated. Please confirm by replying to this PM

Greetings XXX, you are a

Town FBI Agent

You have the ability to find out if a player is a Serial Killer at night by PMing me their name, and, if nothing stops it, you will receive a PM saying 'Serial Killer' or 'Not Serial Killer'. During the day you have a vote.

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated. Please confirm by replying to this PM

Greetings XXX, you are a

Town Roleblocker

You have the ability to stop a player performing an action at night by PMing me their name, and, if nothing stops it, their action will fail. During the day you have a vote.

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated. Please confirm by replying to this PM

Greetings XXX, you are a

Vanilla Townie

During the day you have a vote.

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated. Please confirm by replying to this PM

[RadiantCowbells]

so to unpack really quickly

1) Roleblocker is a guaranteed guilty if it targets the SK because it's a single SK.
2) 1-shot BP is a scummy as hell role when SK is confirmed to exist
3) FBI agent singles out the SK.
4) The doc on mafia makes SK's life even harder.

So as is right now the SK is really, really screwed and the Mafia have a super easy time and pretty much just waltz to endgame as is.

[RadiantCowbells]

If you're not especially attached to FBI agent, something I would consider is replacing the FBI agent with a gunsmith.
Rolecop catches the scum that Gunsmith can't, gunsmith is more focused on eliminating Mafia (which are quite strong as is) but can't catch the serial killer (who already has a rough time).
It wouldn't be enough to balance it but it would make things better and I think there's some interesting interplay between the two roles in this setup.

[mastina]

If you're not especially attached to FBI agent, something I would consider is replacing the FBI agent with a gunsmith.
Rolecop catches the scum that Gunsmith can't, gunsmith is more focused on eliminating Mafia (which are quite strong as is) but can't catch the serial killer (who already has a rough time).
It wouldn't be enough to balance it but it would make things better and I think there's some interesting interplay between the two roles in this setup.

To be honest I was going to suggest a gunsmith in addition to the FBI agent because the gunsmith can pseudoclear the serial killer and the town desperately needs the boost in power right now since they've got literally nothing against stacked scum vs. powerful lone scum.

[Nexus]

Remove mafia doctor, add gunsmith, what else?

[RadiantCowbells]

I think that 3 ways to catch out the SK is just too much.

[RadiantCowbells]

The rolecop is currently not super useful. what if you gave scum a ninja, perhaps also an encryptor, so that the role cop can score guilties?

[PenguinPower]

I think that 3 ways to catch out the SK is just too much.

What are the three ways? I see, potentially, two.

[RadiantCowbells]

rolecop (not confirmed but it's a seriously questionable thing to have to claim)
fbi agent
roleblocker

[PenguinPower]

Is this setup going to be announced with an SK; because otherwise I don't see how the RB can confirm the SK.

[RadiantCowbells]

I mean it doesn't confirm it as town or scum but it confirms that the slot is {sk/vig}

[Nexus]

i am happy to drop the SK, if you think that would be better.

[RadiantCowbells]

I am always an advocate for dropping the SK

I guess I'm fine with it, I just feel like whoever rolled SK would have a really shitty time.

[Nexus]

Mafia Goon
Mafia Goon
Mafia Goon

Rolecop
Gunsmith
FBI Agent (for the WIFOM)
Roleblocker

VT X 6

?

[RadiantCowbells]

Role cop is currently anti-town given how it will influence setup spec and still too scumsided imo

if you either gave town a miller to conftown or scum a ninja/encryptor to confscum I'd be fine with it.

[mastina]

Yeah given that the gunsmith has two false-guilties (rolecops and FBI agents both have guns), and the rolecop is going to be suspicious of the roleblocker, giving the town something extra would be useful, no matter the type.

[RadiantCowbells]

Ideally I'd like to see a towny investigate on town and a scummy investigate on scum.

But I'd pass it with one of the two or some other town power given.

[Nexus]

What about if I made it a Loyal Rolecop?

[RadiantCowbells]

Town would be too strong.

[Nexus]

Rolecop became a vanilla cop?
Then add a maf ninja?

[RadiantCowbells]

That's very minimal power for town and would probably be too scumsided but I'll let other people give input on that.

[mastina]

That's very minimal power for town and would probably be too scumsided but I'll let other people give input on that.

^My take as well.

[RadiantCowbells]

So from here to what I would consider balanced it would be either two confirmable scum or 1 confirmable scum, 1 confirmable town. I'd probably pass just one.

Or a change from role cop to something else or some other power somewhere else.