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Post Post #25 (ISO) » Tue Mar 05, 2019 4:19 pm

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Gonna think about it overnight
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Post Post #26 (ISO) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 10:15 am

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Worst cases I can think of for town and scum in terms of balance reviewing, based on my version 1 of the setup from post

A. Worst case possibility 1, for town - starting on d1:

bp doc lynched
scum jails tracker
scum nk n2 cop
ascetic cop checks miller - guilty

d2: miller ends up lynched

n2:
scum jail backup tracker
scum nk ascetic cop

d3: mislynch on town again

n3:
scum nk backup tracker

d4: lylo


B. Worst case possibility 1, for scum - starting on d1:

scum 1 gets lynched
ascetic cop checks scum 2 - guilty! jk gets lynched next day
tracker sees scum 3 move for an nk - next lynch in line for day 3. simultaneously, the doc fortunately protects nk target

Basically scum are done for on n1 with my version 1 setup, is the way I see it after some more thought...
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Post Post #27 (ISO) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 10:17 am

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Now that I've had more time to think it over with those 2 cases, starting to think of this modified version below. I was starting to suspect town had too many methods to catch scum on n1 & they have a 1-shot bulletproof protective too. So
I watered it down to version 2 below...thoughts?


Maintains the bp theme with 3 investigatives and bp protective, balanced with 1 negative utility in the informed miller and added 2 modifiers to buff up the mafia jk. So at worst case in the scum world, town wins in 3 days with a d1 scum lynch combined with n1 & n2 results. But that would have to have some incredible talent and/or luck.
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Post Post #28 (ISO) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 12:10 pm

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@RC, what would you say the effect would be of removing the N2 cop and changing the ascetic 1-shot cop to 2-shot?
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Post Post #29 (ISO) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 3:28 pm

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fuck umm let's call this 2 hours
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Post Post #30 (ISO) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 3:31 pm

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setup seems both bad and scumsided
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Post Post #31 (ISO) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 3:31 pm

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i just like

don't see the merit
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Post Post #32 (ISO) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 4:27 pm

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I think it's playable as is I guess

i don't like it but
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Post Post #33 (ISO) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 4:27 pm

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like I really don't feel like it's a 'normal' game but
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Post Post #34 (ISO) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 5:07 pm

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In post 28, northsidegal wrote:@RC, what would you say the effect would be of removing the N2 cop and changing the ascetic 1-shot cop to 2-shot?
it would be a slight nerf to town
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Post Post #35 (ISO) » Thu Mar 07, 2019 5:58 am

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What about this one:

Mafia Bulletproof
Mafia Encryptor
Mafia Goon

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1-shot Vigilante
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Post Post #36 (ISO) » Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:12 am

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Umm
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Post Post #37 (ISO) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 7:37 am

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Sure I guess
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Post Post #38 (ISO) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 7:37 am

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I mean setup spec will murder town but
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Post Post #39 (ISO) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 7:39 am

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Give town a role cop in place of something?
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Post Post #40 (ISO) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 7:42 am

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In post 39, RadiantCowbells wrote:Give town a role cop in place of something?
:D

How about in place of the Backup Motion Detector?
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Post Post #41 (ISO) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 7:46 am

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Sure

Make the mafia bullet proof 2 shot and make the goon a 1 shot cop?
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Post Post #42 (ISO) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 8:17 am

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that's all to make the rolecop get pseudo-innos on scum?
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Post Post #43 (ISO) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 8:19 am

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Mafia 2-shot Bulletproof
Mafia Encryptor
Mafia 1-shot Cop

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1-shot Bulletproof
1-shot Vigilante
Doctor
Informed Miller: you are informed there are two bulletproofs in the setup
1-shot Motion Detector
Rolecop
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I feel like this has even more wifom craziness than the previous setup. Never seen a Mafia Cop before....but I'm fine with the suggestions . :)
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Post Post #44 (ISO) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 8:20 am

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In post 42, northsidegal wrote:that's all to make the rolecop get pseudo-innos on scum?
hmm I want to know as well

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Post Post #45 (ISO) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 7:15 pm

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basically

i think it makes the setup more interesting. they aren't necessarily pseudo innos as much as they're interesting quesiton marks and the setup was already low power so
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Post Post #46 (ISO) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 7:16 pm

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encryptor is obvscum
bulletproof is meant to slightly lean scum
cop is meant to look towny

think it would be interesting.
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Post Post #47 (ISO) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 7:48 pm

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ok
me and nsg were going over changes to the setup on sitechat
how would you feel about

JOAT (Vigilante, Neapolitan)
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Post Post #48 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:31 am

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In post 47, RadiantCowbells wrote:JOAT (Vigilante, Neapolitan)
1-Shot Bulletproof Miller
Doctor
Rolecop
VT
VT
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VT

1-Shot Strongman
Encryptor
Goon
hm...interesting setup with the unlimited vig. I like it!
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Post Post #49 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2019 12:04 pm

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You want same setup but with unlimited vig instead of 1shotvig 1shotnea?
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