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Post Post #0 (ISO) » Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:08 pm

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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:17 pm

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I want a gunsmith setup
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:21 pm

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Gunsmith
Backup Gunsmith
Vigilante
Novice 2-Shot Jailkeeper
Odd-Night Tracker
VT*5
Mafia Even-Night Watcher
Mafia Goon
Mafia 1-Shot Doctor

Public info:
Town contains a Gunsmith
Scum contains a Doctor
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:21 pm

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Thoughts?
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:23 pm

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Actually hmm I want to change a bit
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:30 pm

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Replace 2 shot Jailkeeper with novice vanilla cop and setup is a go
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:37 pm

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Gunsmith
Backup Gunsmith
Vigilante
Novice Vanilla Cop
Odd-Night Tracker
VT*5
Mafia Even-Night Watcher
Mafia Goon
Mafia 1-Shot Doctor

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Town contains a Gunsmith
Scum contains a Doctor
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:54 pm

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gs + vanilla cop i would say = 1 strong town invest. vanilla + no gun combines adventure game style into an inno; vanilla + yes gun combines horror game style into "this is a goon." backup gunsmith is gravy and doesn't get found by the watcher initially. vig is always great, tracker is always ok & can get a useful result on doc, vanilla cop

feels a little good for town - if doc dies then gunsmiths become super good, since two town gunsmiths with more than one scum doc isn't a setup you would ever design (this same heuristic kind of gives a tight setup spec that scum doesn't have traitor, probably doesn't have a gun role). also if its the last thing alive then gs will thus get an inno on vanilla cop & backup gs (edge case i guess). maybe gs and vanilla cop would feel weird to coexist

doc & watcher don't strike me as exceptionally useful since vig can just shoot non-obvious targets which in turn makes watcher a little worse (anecdotally i've run full maf watcher twice and it produced 0 useful results more or less. it's better here since all relevant town PRs have the same idea for who to target but idk if it's even as good as even-night rolecop)
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:55 pm

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worth thinking about how to word the public informs so that it doesn't suggest full doc/full gs

i think i tried to think of this before and ended up just informing gemini "theres an odd-night watcher"
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:59 pm

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Watcher is there as a gunsmith fakeclaim btw
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Sun Mar 31, 2019 7:02 pm

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uh town watcher doesn't have a gun that i know of if that's what you're saying
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Sun Mar 31, 2019 7:05 pm

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I am, uh, not on my game today. :(
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Sun Mar 31, 2019 7:07 pm

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its ok
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Sun Mar 31, 2019 7:08 pm

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What are your thoughts on balance?
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Sun Mar 31, 2019 7:09 pm

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i think it is slightly town favored
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Sun Mar 31, 2019 7:12 pm

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Ok

That's what I want to hear

Are you good to pass it at the level of slightly town favored

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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Sun Mar 31, 2019 7:16 pm

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sure, i don't think its problematically town favored
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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Sun Mar 31, 2019 7:30 pm

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Ayy

3 setups done in 30 minutes
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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Sun Mar 31, 2019 7:31 pm

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And by that I mean just over an hour but
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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:21 pm

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Do you want the public info listed in the signups in the queue thread?
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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:23 pm

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Also this could use role PMs and is in signups!
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Post Post #21 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 3:47 am

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Gunsmith
Backup Gunsmith
Vigilante
Novice Vanilla Cop
Odd-Night Tracker
VT*5
Mafia Even-Night Watcher
Mafia Goon
Mafia 1-Shot Doctor

Welcome! You are a Town Gunsmith.

Every night you may target a player and determine whether they
Have a gun
,
Do not have a gun
, or receive
No result
.

You win when the Mafia have been removed.


Welcome! You are a Town Backup Gunsmith.

If a Gunsmith dies, you will become a Gunsmith, inheriting any modifiers that they possessed.

You win when the Mafia have been removed.


Welcome! You are a Town Vigilante.

Every night you may target a player and nightkill them.

You win when the Mafia have been removed.


Welcome! You are a Town Novice Vanilla Cop.

Each night except night 1, you may target a player and learn that they are
Vanilla
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Vanilla Townie or Mafia Goon or Vanilla Werewolf
),
Not-Vanilla
, or get
No result
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You win when the Mafia have been removed.


Welcome! You are a Town Odd-Night Tracker.

Each odd night, you may target a player and either learn
all names of players that they targeted
, learn that they targeted
no one
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no result
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You win when the Mafia have been removed.


Welcome! You are a Vanilla Townie.

You have your voice and your vote.

You win when the Mafia have been removed.


Welcome! You are a Mafia Goon.

You may submit the factional nightkill. Your factional PT can be found here.

You win when the Town have been removed or nothing can prevent this from happening.


Welcome! You are a Mafia Even-Night Watcher.

Each even night, you may target a player and learn
all the names of players that targeted them
, that
no one
targeted them, or receive
no result
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You may submit the factional nightkill. Your factional PT can be found here.

You win when the Town have been removed or nothing can prevent this from happening.


Welcome! You are a Mafia One-Shot Doctor.

Once per game, you may target a player at night and prevent them from being nightkilled.

You may submit the factional nightkill. Your factional PT can be found here.

You win when the Town have been removed or nothing can prevent this from happening.
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Post Post #22 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 8:26 am

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Post Post #23 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 8:36 am

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In post 19, implosion wrote:Do you want the public info listed in the signups in the queue thread?
Just to clarify, the "town has a gunsmith and mafia has a doctor" info is supposed to be public a la the schadd_ no cop/psychologist announcements, right?
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Post Post #24 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 8:37 am

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you stopped doing that once i got clout
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