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Post Post #0 (ISO) » Fri Apr 26, 2019 7:04 am

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In post 42, BNL wrote:On the other hand I don't want a Night 1 acting vig which could bring a lot of swing onto town
Which leaves us at:

2 Mafia Goon
1 Informed Mafia Goon (told the entire setup)
1 Town Watcher
1 Town Psychologist
1 Town Night 2+ Vig
1 Town JOAT {Commuter, Roleblocker, Doctor}
6 Vanilla Townie
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Fri Apr 26, 2019 7:18 am

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looks decent enough, would pass if you made the cult recruiter lynchproof
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:53 am

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Umm sorry just to add a few things here that you may or may not know as an inexperienced normal reviewer

1) Flavor is not allowed. Only mafia/werewolf flavor. Therefore a 'cult' is not allowed to be used in normal games.

2) Recruiters constitute unpredictable alignment shifts which are not only non-normal but are the realm of bastard modding. They have no place in mafiascum.org s normal games.

3) Lynch-proof is not an allowed modifier especially on a scum role.
2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:59 am

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i dont take orders from lowly secondary reviewers
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Fri Apr 26, 2019 10:02 am

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cult is mandatory now silly seal
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Fri Apr 26, 2019 10:04 am

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i think we missed an april fools opportunity with adding cults to normal games and such honestly

(was there even an april fools joke this year? zor said there was but i have no idea what)
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Fri Apr 26, 2019 2:16 pm

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2 Mafia Goon
1 Informed Mafia Goon (told the entire setup)
1 Town Watcher
1 Town Psychologist
1 Town Night 3+ Vigilante
7 Vanilla Townie
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Fri Apr 26, 2019 2:17 pm

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seems very hard for town.
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Fri Apr 26, 2019 4:58 pm

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How about night 2+ vig
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Sat Apr 27, 2019 4:32 am

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how about i give you the finger

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and you give me my phone call?
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Sat Apr 27, 2019 8:48 am

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i think night 2+ is moving in the right direction. are you going for deliberate negative utility with the psychologist / delayed vig interaction?

i think scum being informed of the entire setup is a tenable idea, but i guess i'm not sure if this setup is enough for town.
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Sat Apr 27, 2019 6:27 pm

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second the assertion that scum could use more POWER
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Sat Apr 27, 2019 6:27 pm

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and by scum i mean town
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:55 pm

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2 Mafia Goon
1 Informed Mafia Goon (told the entire setup)
1 Town Watcher
1 Town Psychologist
1 Town Night 3+ Vigilante
1 Town Simple Doctor
6 Vanilla Townie

Better?
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Sun Apr 28, 2019 10:27 pm

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Bump
If still too scumsided I’ll inform the Mafia about the Psychologist or Watcher only.
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Mon Apr 29, 2019 6:18 pm

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your mom
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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Tue Apr 30, 2019 1:16 pm

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northsidegal?
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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Tue Apr 30, 2019 1:20 pm

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she's your mom?
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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Tue Apr 30, 2019 2:40 pm

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Implo said she siteflaked
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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Tue Apr 30, 2019 4:31 pm

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its been all of three days but i guess thats still accurate, sorry about that. i think the addition of the doc is maybe actually a bit too much, interested in rcs thoughts

i dont want to be too overbearing in the design of your setup but i think a better direction to go in would be something that interacts in some unique way with the fact that scum are informed
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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Tue Apr 30, 2019 5:01 pm

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Is the simple doctor really that powerful?

FWIW the idea of the setup was the Watcher + Psychologist + Scum informed about them. I just put "scum informed about everything" to make it simpler.
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Post Post #21 (ISO) » Tue Apr 30, 2019 8:26 pm

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2 Mafia Goon
1 Informed Mafia Goon (told the entire setup)
1 Town Watcher
1 Town Psychologist
1 Town Simple Doctor
7 Vanilla Townie

How's this then? It may be too weak now, but I hadn't liked the vigilante in the setup; while I initially used it as a psychologist guilty, I felt like the setup didn't warrant one.
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Post Post #22 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2019 4:10 am

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Actually
How about change the simple doctor to a simple babysitter?
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Post Post #23 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2019 9:17 am

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it's really easy for scum to play optimally around the watcher and psychologist when they're informed about them.
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Post Post #24 (ISO) » Fri May 03, 2019 4:02 pm

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In post 13, BNL wrote:2 Mafia Goon
1 Informed Mafia Goon (told the entire setup)
1 Town Watcher
1 Town Psychologist
1 Town Night 3+ Vigilante
1 Town Simple Doctor
6 Vanilla Townie

Better?
Would you call this balanced then?
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