A nsg 13p pre-designed setup of some sort

[implosion]

Mafia 1-shot Strongman
Mafia 1-shot Ninja
Mafia Night 3+ Encryptor

Town Complex Announcing PT Cop
Town Mason Messenger
Town Mason Encryptor
Town Mason
VT * 6

[RadiantCowbells]

This is townsided

[RadiantCowbells]

Wait what's the normal definition of messenger

[RadiantCowbells]

Yeah this is townsided.

Towns have been doing very well recently and while I probably would have gone for this several months ago I don't think it's a good idea right now

[RadiantCowbells]

Actually maybe not since the messenger can't exactly act the same night and forestall the fake guilty

I can pass it I guess.

[RadiantCowbells]

Gimme Dem role PMs

[northsidegal]

oh are you sure?

i'm up for shooting it around a bit more, even if you think it's passable. i was at a point in designing it when it was originally just

3 goons
vs
announcing pt cop
2 masons

and it occurred to me that adding another mason was interestingly not necessarily only a boost to town power, or at the very least it was less of a boost than randomly adding a mason in any other setup

i also forgot to PM implosion that i wanted to include the schadd_ provision: No Cops, Psychologists, Ninjas or Traitors.

[northsidegal]

i did, however, think that just directly adding another mason was too much town power given the situation where the PT Cop just gets innocents avoiding any types of guilties, false positives or otherwise. complex + the useless scum roles solved that problem and also, i thought, added an interesting red herring for the scumteam (although i was going to include a delayed encryptor even before i thought of the complex thing).

[northsidegal]

i'm up for shooting it around a bit more, even if you think it's passable.

(not that i think it necessarily needs to be changed, i guess i'm just interested to hear your thoughts)

[RadiantCowbells]

oh are you sure?

i'm up for shooting it around a bit more, even if you think it's passable. i was at a point in designing it when it was originally just

3 goons
vs
announcing pt cop
2 masons

and it occurred to me that adding another mason was interestingly not necessarily only a boost to town power, or at the very least it was less of a boost than randomly adding a mason in any other setup

i also forgot to PM implosion that i wanted to include the schadd_ provision: No Cops, Psychologists, Ninjas or Traitors.

This would be a jerk thing to do given that I'm pretty sure the complex pt cop is a cop in practice.

[RadiantCowbells]

I would leave it as is. I like how it is though I'd remove the messenger component.

[northsidegal]

alrighty then, will get on those role pms

[RadiantCowbells]

(I can pass it with the messenger intact)

[northsidegal]

what is wrong with me? messenger is not a real role, it's called mailman.

Spoiler: role pms

Mini Normal TODO

Welcome, TODO. You are a

Vanilla Townie

.

Abilities:

You have no special abilities. Your vote is your weapon.

Win condition:

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated and there is at least one town player alive.

The game thread is here. Please confirm by replying to this with your role name and alignment.

Mini Normal TODO

Welcome, TODO. You are a

Town

Complex

Announcing

PT Cop

.

Abilities:

Each night you may investigate a player to determine if they have access to a private thread. You will receive results in the form of "Has Access", "Does Not Have Access", or "Your action was unsuccessful".
If you target a player who is Vanilla, your action will fail.
If you successfully visit a player, they will be informed that they were targeted by a PT Cop.

Win condition:

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated and there is at least one town player alive.

The game thread is here. Please confirm by replying to this with your role name and alignment.

Mini Normal TODO

Welcome, TODO. You are a

Town

Mason

Mailman

.

Abilities:

You share a Masonry with TODO and TODO. Your private thread is located here.
Each night you may send me a message as well as a recipient. If successful, at the end of the night your target will receive your message, but will not be informed of your identity.

Win condition:

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated and there is at least one town player alive.

The game thread is here. Please confirm by replying to this with your role name and alignment.

Mini Normal TODO

Welcome, TODO. You are a

Town

Mason

Encryptor

.

Abilities:

You share a Masonry with TODO and TODO. Your private thread is located here.
While you are alive, any private threads that you are a part of will remain open during the day.

Win condition:

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated and there is at least one town player alive.

The game thread is here. Please confirm by replying to this with your role name and alignment.

Mini Normal TODO

Welcome, TODO. You are a

Town

Mason

.

Abilities:

You share a Masonry with TODO and TODO. Your private thread is located here.

Win condition:

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated and there is at least one town player alive.

The game thread is here. Please confirm by replying to this with your role name and alignment.

Mini Normal TODO

Welcome, TODO. You are a

Mafia

1-shot

Strongman

.

Abilities:

You share a private thread with your fellow Mafia,

TODO

and

TODO

.
As a member of the Mafia, you have access to a factional nightkill - at night one of you may kill another player.

One night only, you may choose to perform the factional kill such that you will be unable to be stopped by any roleblocking or protective abilities.

Win condition:

You win when the mafia is the only faction that remains or nothing can prevent this from happening.

Your private thread is here.
The game thread is here. Please confirm by replying to this with your role name and alignment or by posting in your private thread.

Mini Normal TODO

Welcome, TODO. You are a

Mafia

1-shot

Ninja

.

Abilities:

You share a private thread with your fellow Mafia,

TODO

and

TODO

.
As a member of the Mafia, you have access to a factional nightkill - at night one of you may kill another player.

One night only, you may choose to perform the factional kill such that you will be invisible to any movement-detecting roles.

Win condition:

You win when the mafia is the only faction that remains or nothing can prevent this from happening.

Your private thread is here.
The game thread is here. Please confirm by replying to this with your role name and alignment or by posting in your private thread.

Mini Normal TODO

Welcome, TODO. You are a

Mafia

Night 3+

Encryptor

.

Abilities:

You share a private thread with your fellow Mafia,

TODO

and

TODO

.
As a member of the Mafia, you have access to a factional nightkill - at night one of you may kill another player.

Beyond Night 3 and while you are alive, any private threads that you are a part of will remain open during the day.

Win condition:

You win when the mafia is the only faction that remains or nothing can prevent this from happening.

Your private thread is here.
The game thread is here. Please confirm by replying to this with your role name and alignment or by posting in your private thread.

[RadiantCowbells]

There's a lot wrong with you

I have an alphabetized encyclopedia of your faults that would fill several PTs

[RadiantCowbells]

Volume 1: Abandon <-> Annoying

[northsidegal]

[northsidegal]

so the role pms are fine right

[RadiantCowbells]

yeah they're good

[AaronFrost]

Hey. Couple questions.

1) In most games it's announced in the intro post that mafia have day talk. I'm assuming that I should omit this, but what do I say if someone asks about it?

2) Are the ninja and strongman abilities activated? Like does the player have to say

Ninja kill Player

or does it just automatically activate when the player with the ninja ability does the kill?

3) Any other setup information that needs to be publicly revealed?

Thanks. Excited to mod my first game

[implosion]

1) omit it, and if someone asks, the standard answer is something like "mafia cannot talk during the day unless allowed to by an encryptor". Don't worry about this giving away the existence of an encryptor, it doesn't because it's the standard answer.

2) They have to specify whether or not they're using the ninja/strongman abilities. They can make regular kills if they want to save their shots.

3) There is the provision that nsg wanted to include but RC thought it was a bad idea so I'm not actually sure if we should :p. I'll let them weigh in if they see this.

[AaronFrost]

Alright thanks!

[implosion]

(also if you prefer for (1) you can just put that provision in the ruleset, either way is fine)

[AaronFrost]

Okay I'll probably just do that then.

[AaronFrost]

Are scum allowed to talk during the pregame?