BBMolla's micro normal review, December 2019

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1 Town Informed Macho Mason
1 Town Masons
2 Town Neighbors
3 Vanilla Townies
2 Mafia Informed Multitasking Rolecops

Mason is informed that Mafia knows his role.
Mafia is informed of who is the Informed Macho Mason

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Primary: PenguinPower
Secondary: schadd_

[schadd_]

is there supposed to be some reason the mason wouldn't get shot? i don't believe there is, in which case, the mason ought to get shot at mafia's earliest convenience which leaves a scumsided setup

[BBmolla]

is there supposed to be some reason the mason wouldn't get shot? i don't believe there is, in which case, the mason ought to get shot at mafia's earliest convenience which leaves a scumsided setup

I was under the impression that 2 Masons vs 2 Mafia at 9 players is relatively balanced

Add in the two neighbors, that's at least three implied named town roles in a 9 player game.

To help the mafia I provided them with a free night one mason kill. A VT d1 lynch and a VT n1 nightkill, leaving the mafia in a situation where there only CC is one other VT, leaves a sort of awkward scenario.

Of course there's neighbor WIFOM, especially with my name for the setup, but I figured 4 named roles vs. 2 mafia (essentially) goons is a bit townsided.

But if I'm overestimating that then the informed can go away. I just wanted to help the swing of the first two deaths.

[BBmolla]

I can see your argument though that day 2, ignoring neighbors, becomes 1 mason vs. 2 mafia

Informed can go away if we think it should.

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Add in the two neighbors, that's at least three implied named town roles in a 9 player game.

There's no real meta implication that the neighbors would be town/town rather than town/scum.

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(at least not as far as i'm aware but i also haven't technically played a normal game in like two years :p)

[PenguinPower]

Role PMs/Ruleset?

I look at the setup during lunch.

[BBmolla]

Role PMs/Ruleset?

I look at the setup during lunch.

I’ll post them today

[BBmolla]

Add in the two neighbors, that's at least three implied named town roles in a 9 player game.

There's no real meta implication that the neighbors would be town/town rather than town/scum.

It'd be implied at least one is town though, which is why I said 3 instead of 4 (mason/mason/one of the neighbors)

If it seems scumsided, maybe I give one neighbor a 1-shot Jailkeep?

[BBmolla]

Or if that's taking things in opposite direction I can just get rid of the informed nonsense.

[BBmolla]

I kind of liked having a dude who knows he's gonna die, he'll probably claim day one immediately and I wanted to see how that played out

[BBmolla]

1 Town Informed Macho Mason
1 Town Mason
1 Town 1-shot Bodyguard Neighbor
1 Town Neighbor
3 Vanilla Townies
2 Mafia Informed Goons

Mason is informed that Mafia knows his role.
Mafia is informed of who is the Informed Macho Mason

?

[PenguinPower]

It'd be implied at least one is town though, which is why I said 3 instead of 4 (mason/mason/one of the neighbors)

It's implied that one is town, so what happens when one of them flips town?

I kind of liked having a dude who knows he's gonna die, he'll probably claim day one immediately and I wanted to see how that played out

It doesn't seem that fun for the person playing the role though.

[BBmolla]

It doesn't seem that fun for the person playing the role though.

I could argue the same for an Innocent Child?

[BBmolla]

It's implied that one is town, so what happens when one of them flips town?

I concede that point tho

[BBmolla]

I could compromise on an Macho Innocent Child Mason

[PenguinPower]

It doesn't seem that fun for the person playing the role though.

I could argue the same for an Innocent Child?

Fair.

I think my only issue is the informed modifiers. Neighbor wifom could go either way dependent on the players. The most recent 13p with neighbors had two town neighbors (and three masons). It’s not an open setup so being a named townie isn’t as powerful wrt claims/ccs.

So removing informed you basically have two clears vs two mafia with wildcard neighbors which could swing either way in a closed setup.

[BBmolla]

1 Town Macho Innocent Child Mason
1 Town Mason
1 Town 1-shot Bodyguard Neighbor
1 Town Neighbor
3 Vanilla Townies
2 Mafia Goons

[schadd_]

^ good with that

[PenguinPower]

Yep.

Let’s see the rules/role PMs and we’ll be good.

[BBmolla]

Welcome,

PLAYER

, you are a

Town Macho Innocent Child Mason

.

Abilities

• During the Day, you may vote for whomever you want lynched.
  
• Macho
  - You are immune to any ability that would prevent your death.
  
• Innocent Child
  - You will be publicly confirmed town by the mod at the start of the game.
  
• Mason
  - You are a Mason, along with
  PLAYER
  . You know each other to be aligned with the town. There will be a Mason QT that can be used for discussion at any time.

Win Condition

You win when all threats to the Town are eliminated and at least one Town-aligned player is still alive, or nothing can prevent the same.

Mod confirmation:

PLAYER

is an

Innocent Child

and mod confirmed to be

Town.

(need thoughts on this, I don't want the players to feel lied to, do I state they are an Innocent Child or just state they are mod confirmed town.)

Welcome,

PLAYER

, you are a

Town Mason

.

Abilities

• During the Day, you may vote for whomever you want lynched.
  
• Mason
  - You are a Mason, along with
  PLAYER
  . You know each other to be aligned with the town. There will be a Mason QT that can be used for discussion at any time.

Win Condition

You win when all threats to the Town are eliminated and at least one Town-aligned player is still alive, or nothing can prevent the same.

Mason QT post:
Welcome

PLAYER

and

PLAYER

to your Mason QT. This QT can be used for discussion at any time.

Welcome,

PLAYER

, you are a

Town 1-shot Bodyguard Neighbor

.

Abilities

• During the Day, you may vote for whomever you want lynched.
  
• 1-shot
  - The following ability can be used once.
  
• Bodyguard
  - During the Night, you may PM me the name of another player. If this player is nightkilled during that Night, you will die instead.
  
• Neighbor
  - You are a Neighbor, along with
  PLAYER
  . There will be a Neighbor QT that can be used for discussion at any time.

Win Condition

You win when all threats to the Town are eliminated and at least one Town-aligned player is still alive, or nothing can prevent the same.

Welcome,

PLAYER

, you are a

Town Neighbor

.

Abilities

• During the Day, you may vote for whomever you want lynched.
  
• Neighbor
  - You are a Neighbor, along with
  PLAYER
  . There will be a Neighbor QT that can be used for discussion at any time.

Win Condition

You win when all threats to the Town are eliminated and at least one Town-aligned player is still alive, or nothing can prevent the same.

Neighbor QT post:
Welcome

PLAYER

and

PLAYER

to your Neighborhood. This Neighborhood can be used for discussion at any time.

Welcome,

PLAYER

, you are a

Vanilla Townie

.

Abilities

• During the Day, you may vote for whomever you want lynched.

Win Condition

You win when all threats to the Town are eliminated and at least one Town-aligned player is still alive, or nothing can prevent the same.

Welcome,

PLAYER

, you are a

Vanilla Townie

.

Abilities

• During the Day, you may vote for whomever you want lynched.

Win Condition

You win when all threats to the Town are eliminated and at least one Town-aligned player is still alive, or nothing can prevent the same.

Welcome,

PLAYER

, you are a

Vanilla Townie

.

Abilities

• During the Day, you may vote for whomever you want lynched.

Win Condition

You win when all threats to the Town are eliminated and at least one Town-aligned player is still alive, or nothing can prevent the same.

Welcome,

PLAYER

, you are a

Mafia Goon

, along with your partner

PLAYER

, a

Mafia Goon

.

Abilities

• During the Day, you may vote for whomever you want lynched.
  
• Factional Kill
  - A member of the Mafia may kill one player per Night.
  
• Factional Communication
  - There will be a Mafia QT that can be used for discussion at any time.

Win Condition

You win when all players without a Mafia wincon are eliminated and at least one Mafia-aligned player is still alive (or nothing can prevent the same).

Welcome,

PLAYER

, you are a

Mafia Goon

, along with your partner

PLAYER

, a

Mafia Goon

.

Abilities

• During the Day, you may vote for whomever you want lynched.
  
• Factional Kill
  - A member of the Mafia may kill one player per Night.
  
• Factional Communication
  - There will be a Mafia QT that can be used for discussion at any time.

Win Condition

You win when all players without a Mafia wincon are eliminated and at least one Mafia-aligned player is still alive (or nothing can prevent the same).

[PenguinPower]

(need thoughts on this, I don't want the players to feel lied to, do I state they are an Innocent Child or just state they are mod confirmed town.)

Just state that [player name] is mod-confirmed to be aligned with town.

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innocent child mason is kind of hilarious

[schadd_]

normal is notoriously the funniest of the queues after all