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So Tracker + Doctor + 5 vts vs. 2 Goons is fairly balanced based on its use in the newbie queue for a long time. Then here, we add in a strongman and bulletproof IC. I think that's fairly even, though it's very problematic for scum if the strongman gets lynched before the ic dies. I think the scum fruit vendor and ascetic balance each other out (most likely, the ascetic will get lynched if they claim unless the fruit vendor already flipped.) As far as balance goes, the only thing I would do is drop the ninja from the fruit vendor. I just don't like how it interacts with the tracker. (For most cases, it probably won't matter as the strongman ought to be performing the kill, but in the cases it does, it doesn't seem to add much to the setup and is really bleh.)
The other factor to consider is swing. As RC points out, scum are royally screwed if their strongman dies, especially if the strongman gets lynched day 1. There aren't too many ways to fix this issue without greatly changing the setup, but one way to at least reduce it is to look at the worst scenarios and see how to mitigate those. My main recommendation here is to change the bulletproof IC to 1-Shot BP IC.
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1. Drop the ninja from the fruit vendor.
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I just think compulsive is really awful for scum if they can't kill at the same time. Removing compulsive also has a side effect of significantly reducing swing.- RadiantCowbells
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I guess something like Night 1-2 Compulsive Fruit Vendor works. I want to avoid using the phrasing "2-Shot Compulsive Fruit Vendor" as that sounds a bit confusing.- Ircher
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Okay, I thought about it more, and I think I'm actually unwilling to accept 2-Shot Compulsive FV. Part of our goal as designer and reviewer is to come up with a setup players enjoy. I don't think scum will appreciate or enjoy the setup at all if they lose their strongman early. While the chances may be somewhat low, this isn't an absurdly low possibility.
The only options I'm willing to accept:
1. Multitasking Compulsive Fruit Vendor
2. Fruit Vendor
Sorry for any confusion this might have caused. - Ircher
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