Team Mafia 2018: Mafiosi Revolution (Over)

[Ginngie]

I dont fucking care about anyone's cases

we can do that the next day

no one is going no where

so lets fuckin hurry up

[Ginngie]

Ari

vote Cabd

[Ginngie]

I'm not reading anything until we lynch Cabd

[Ginngie]

No.

[Ginngie]

Eddie you not voting Cabd pisses me off

[Ginngie]

No i really can’t

[Ginngie]

VOTE: CABD

[Ginngie]

my hammersenses were tingling

[Ginngie]

I'm glad I stopped watching just to see this lmfao

[Ginngie]

got a guilty on Tor

VOTE: Tor

GG guys

[Ginngie]

when does Ginngie ever vote first

[Ginngie]

ya'll are nerds

and spiff I dont want your vote

[Ginngie]

No I'm actually dead serious on this.

The game is over cheet

[Ginngie]

we could pretend there is a fourth scum lmao

[Ginngie]

Spiff is actually right lmao

[Ginngie]

Lol rc wants everyone to know he scumread both mulch and Cabd and didn’t townread tor

does he want a reach around as well?

[Ginngie]

cheet

how does it feel that I'm more town than you

and you tried so hard

and I kinda just ate food and sipped my gatorade and occasionally voted

[Ginngie]

fuck

im caught

[Ginngie]

tracker

tracked Cabd

then I tracked Tor

tracked Cabd for obvi reasons

Tor because his associations with Mulch

[Ginngie]

*whips*

[Ginngie]

I got two guilties without RCs help

so

[Ginngie]

My guilty is bigger than yours

[Ginngie]

lol

[Ginngie]

Does that say mason PT

Like it’s explicitly says you’re confirmed town

[Ginngie]

I need to know

[Ginngie]

I need to know if that explicitly says mason or not

[Ginngie]

Ice cream doesn’t mean masons dumbass

[Ginngie]

Ice cream is a name

Unless it explicitly says you’re confirmed town

[Ginngie]

IF IT DOESNT EXPLICITLY SAY

[Ginngie]

Ask the mod

If it’s explicitly town confirmed

I had Cabd scum 100% because Tor!scum

[Ginngie]

HOLD UP

[Ginngie]

MASTINA IS A NORMAL REVIEWER

THIS IS A NORMAL GAME

FOR THEM TO BE MASONS

THEY HAVE TO BE EXPLICITLY CALLED MASONS

THAT'S WHY I ASKED

[Ginngie]

Also

[Ginngie]

there can only be two grey listed roles in a large normal

Cabd was a grey listed

so they can't be masons cuz that'd be 3 grey listed

[Ginngie]

Eddie is full of shit throwing

[Ginngie]

he didn't say his day one target?

[Ginngie]

I dont play normals so

[Ginngie]

Literally one normal Eddie

[Ginngie]

even then i didn't actually play in it

If I remember it was like an RC game

[Ginngie]

Guys I'm afraid people will think Eddie Cane is being serious and actually lynch Ginngie so we should stop

ARE YOU READING MY POSTS I'M NOT TROLLING FUCKING CHRIST

you're throwing

[Ginngie]

I can say 100% without a doubt I know Tor is scum this game

Tor!scum confirmed Cabd!scum

Fucking trust me I know my shit

[Ginngie]

I have shit reads but I'm a damn good sheeper

you accusing me of lolhammering as if it makes me scum means you know nothing about me.

That's what I do. I will hammer literally any wagon regardless of my read

[Ginngie]

and lynching scum is lynching scum, wasting time on lynches is fucking stupid

[Ginngie]

I can say 100% without a doubt I know Tor is scum this game

Tor!scum confirmed Cabd!scum

Fucking trust me I know my shit

. . .

cabd confirmed cabd scum by playing a game of chicken with prods and subbing mixed in with lies, not your tor bs.

i know MY shit, i think i've demonstrated that.

Eddie I swear to god.

[Ginngie]

TORANGA IS SCUM

VOTE ACCORDINGLY

EDDIE IS GAME THROWING

IGNORE ACCORDINGLY

[Ginngie]

because Eddie is a fuck ass who is making things difficult because he's too prideful to give up a townread

I hate players like him.

I have a fucking guilty

I've known that Tor is scum and Cabd is scum since D2.

I'm tired of this game

[Ginngie]

Ginngie, why are you getting worked up?

Today we lynch Tor. If somehow he was town, we lynch you. If you then are also town, Eddie eats rope.

One of you three is scum, prolly Tor atm.

Why get worked up like this? lol

...how are you calling me scum now?? that doesn't even relate. and why do we lynch tor first? this is

fake

and we want 3 scum lynches in a row.

TORANGA IS SCUM

VOTE ACCORDINGLY

EDDIE IS GAME THROWING

IGNORE ACCORDINGLY

and i suppose i was gamethrowing by voting mulch too right?

and lynching scum is lynching scum, wasting time on lynches is fucking stupid

it isn't wasting time. this is team mafia. no game is done until all 5 games are done, there's a reason alisae's game doens't have a postgame discussion and you don't get dead thread access when you die. when your game is as far ahead as this is day phase wise (2 just started day 2 as we started day 3), there's no harm in a bit of extra discussion.

TORANGA IS SCUM

VOTE ACCORDINGLY

EDDIE IS GAME THROWING

IGNORE ACCORDINGLY

[Ginngie]

Chara vote toranaga

[Ginngie]

HE'S FUCKING SCUM CONFIRMED

I KNOW THIS

AND YOU'RE TRUSTING YOUR OWN READ

WHEN I KNOW

FOR A FACT

WITHOUT A DOUBT

THAT HE'S SCUM

LIKE FUCK

[Ginngie]

ARI VOTE TOR PLZ

[Ginngie]

but ... why ? that might be the most antitown thing i've ever heard and i have a HARD time believing its true. it basically means town auto loses if you ever get to lylo, for starters.

It started in Kilos where I met my lover Chesskid

I used to be afraid of hammers but now I get off on them

[Ginngie]

okay can you spend one post and summarize why he's confirmed please.

lol!reasons

[Ginngie]

TORANGA IS SCUM

VOTE ACCORDINGLY

EDDIE IS GAME THROWING

IGNORE ACCORDINGLY

[Ginngie]

I have no reason to suspect mulch or transcend

[Ginngie]

he is playing poorly probably but I don't think he is scummy

[Ginngie]

also dare I say mulch is pretty good at mafia and a terrible d1 lynch anyway

and it's not like any of you can read him well, he gets mislynched a fair bit on MS and often on D1

I'm not allowing that to happen without a very good reason. so far the scummiest thing about him was OMGUSing transcend who I think is pretty towny.

[Ginngie]

no offense dude but if the creator of mafia joined this game and i scumread his ass, i'd lynch his ass.

no one to me is an asset if i scumread them.

mulch is a worse d1 lynch than the creator of mafia

[Ginngie]

Your dumbass can't read that scum-scum interactions

All Tor does is defend Mulch by saying he's always a mislynch

and say he's scummy and playing badly but town anyway.

It's fucked and you're too blind to see it

[Ginngie]

VOTE: Mulch

He is scum

Goodbye

reading the thread up to this, it's virtually impossible that anyone in their right mind is scumreading mulch, so I actually don't like this very much. transcend may know mulch is the type of player that gets himself in trouble by doing things people dislike when he is wolfread, so I can see a scum motivation behind this push. transcend, what was scummy about mulch up to this post of yours? he reads very towny to me. am I tone deaf?

I also like firebringer's posts up to that page. seems very easy going with mulch and I like the spiffeh wolfreads both from him and mulch.

HE SAYS MULCH IS SCUMMY

BUT SAYS NO ON IN THEIR RIGHT MIND SHOULD BE SCUMREADING MULCH

HI

[Ginngie]

2 people on my team also think mulch is scum!

Wow!

Incredible!

I don't believe this at all actually

MORE MULCH DEFENSE

[Ginngie]

fucking thank you

I told my team mates to read the thread because I couldn't believe Tor was a mason

mastina then told me very loudly that the Ice Cream PT couldn't be a masonry

[Ginngie]

Ginngie... ask Mastina why she didn't tell you an Ice Cream PT couldn't exist in this game.

I personally thought an Ice Cream PT couldn't exist because Ice Cream is flavored?

[Ginngie]

This is probably going to be one of those games I’m mislynched day 1

I'm sensing the same, and I'd advice you to halt all further posting until we get more people online..
I've seen so many games where mulch is lynched D1, and with various end-results.
The one recent game that comes to mind where mulch WASN'T lynched D1, town won..

love this post. I don't see any game where mulch got mislynched d1 and town won on MS. I'm not letting that happen again.

more shite reasoning.

This isn't a reason to townread a slot nor defend it.

[Ginngie]

mulch, please unvote.

mulch, please unvote.

UNVOTE: Cabd

Why?

mulch, please unvote.

UNVOTE: Cabd

Why?

playing it safe yo

WOW

A THREE PIECE TEAM INTERACTION

[Ginngie]

Ari can hammer

[Ginngie]

okay cool

didn't know that

[Ginngie]

Ari hammer

[Ginngie]

I need this game out of my life so I can focus on my inorganic exam

[Ginngie]

We were policy lynching CABD today anyway, but on the plus side they are actually scummy

Scummy how? Anyone on the wagon can answer this.

I'm not on the wagon. I think saying mulch is town because he is being a dick is a fake thought, and I don't like their other reads or how they approached anything this game.

speaking of low hanging fruit, I'd absolutely lynch aristophanes and don't care that his flip gives 'no information'.

[Ginngie]

FUCK

[Ginngie]

ME

[Ginngie]

SORRY

[Ginngie]

MY TEAM

[Ginngie]

DOESN'T KNOW

[Ginngie]

WHY HE'S NOT SCUM

[Ginngie]

SO THERES THAT

[Ginngie]

I will say tho post Team Mafia the reaction to it being a green flip is fucking funny

[Ginngie]

btw my Team has a theory, well mostly Bulba, that scum would be off the wagon on the Tor lynch

[Ginngie]

My team came to the conclusion that Toranaga was scum for reasons

and then because Toranaga was scum, we were able to figure out that Cabd was scum.

Lynching Cabd and scum reading him and being right about it baffles us with Tor being town because we thought we had the game on lock

[Ginngie]

Like question tho

I've mainly been lazy regarding the Patrick slot

One thing is that like, he makes a lot of words

and I don't truly read them.

So idunno if someone has

but if they have and town read Patrick

could you like say why

Also KMD is another focus point my team wants to look into

[Ginngie]

wat

[Ginngie]

lol not my proudest moment

>_>

[Ginngie]

<3

[Ginngie]

I'm not really gonna talk about it until after post game

[Ginngie]

but if we could move on from the past

[Ginngie]

my team was lowkey interested in KMD

whats up with you

p-edit: implosion fuck off

[Ginngie]

you dont get to say hey lets lynch someone just because even if I don't scumread them

and also be mad that "a day was wasted"

you're literally advising to waste another day

[Ginngie]

I feel like you're trying to fish for an easy lynch here dude

[Ginngie]

I'm talking about your remarks regarding me

It's like your fishing the crowd to see if they'd be willing to lynch me without having to put in work to scum read me

[Ginngie]

I don't mean to be a dick but you're gonna have to suck it up and deal with it.

It happened. Was a huge mistake on my teams part.

Post game it will make sense.

Right now your view it wont but afterwards it will.

Focus on reads and not on feelings.

[Ginngie]

Now tell me about Fire

[Ginngie]

VOTE: Ginngie

POLICY BECAUSE LETS KEEP TALKING ABOUT LYNCHING ME

[Ginngie]

If you made a single post today saying lynch me this game

Then do it today

Or hop off my dick for the rest of the game

I’m not gonna be shit on for the rest of the game if the end result is useless

So get me out of the game

[Ginngie]

VOTE: Ginngie

[Ginngie]

VOTE: Ginngie

[Ginngie]

There isn’t a point of replacing out?

Like I’ve already said it my team that came to the conclusion that he was scum and gave the Okay to fake a guilty

And I’m not ruining the game if apparently I can’t live to LyLo and my lynch is required Cheet :^)

[Ginngie]

It would be better if work was busy at all <.<

FWIW, on pride alone I don't want Ginggie anywhere near an endgame. I refuse to lose to scum who fakeclaims guilty on a townie then just says lol sorry the next day.

I do actually genuinely think she's the most likely to be scum as well, all I see if a player who's coasted through the game, indirectly defended Mulch via pushing Kagami, fakeclaimed a guilty and come in today with wishy washy posts implying suspicion of at least 3 players. I'm a bit puzzled on the scum motive for doing this, overnight discussing with my team I said she probably just wanted to go out with a bang out of disgust for how the scum team are doing, but she is at least wriggling today. Knowing that mastina is on that team sort of makes me think it was a gambit? I don't see any sense in it as a town play, if there was such a strong case for lynching Tor, I don't know why she wouldn't at least try to make it instead of just faking a result. Not as though everyone thought Toranaga was town.

I would like someone who thinks Ginngie is town to at least try to make that case, that's not rhetoric, I want to know what the thought process is. I don't buy the notion that she's town because scum wouldn't dare to fake a guilty.

I'll probably spend all afternoon thinking about this game, so I'll have a think on the massclaim and other suspicions being put around.

If there was anyone in this game i actually thought would vote me today

[Ginngie]

There isn’t a point of replacing out?

Like I’ve already said it my team that came to the conclusion that he was scum and gave the Okay to fake a guilty

If what you're going to do is spam self votes then the point of you replacing out is for you to stop doing that.

I don't really get why your team giving you the go-ahead to make a terrible play excuses the ramifications of that terrible play.

This game was on lock and while it still probably is, you severely hurt our chances because apparently your team's read on Tor trumped literally any other player's thoughts on the game.

I'm giving you and your team credit by giving credence to the idea that it was a scum gambit.

POST GAME WHEEEEEEEEE

[Ginngie]

Ginngue stop it with the selfvite AtE shit please <3

Well I’m being told no one cares about me and wants me dead

And then I’m told to replace out because i want people to lynch me

It’s fucking weird juxtaposition to be in

[Ginngie]

If there was anyone in this game i actually thought would vote me today

There's still plenty of time

For what?

You’ve been my biggest proponent of Ginngie scum yet when something like this happens

I feel like it should be your Golden Egg

Yet it feels like you’re still wading your foot in the water?

[Ginngie]

Like i truly understand that townread me earlier and still do but are extremely mad at me

But you don’t really get my understanding on his

[Ginngie]

VOTE: Patrick

[Ginngie]

Ari why are you so kind

[Ginngie]

porque tho

[Ginngie]

I literally can't Cheet.


POST GAME WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[Ginngie]

The 3rd day of Feb around noon my time EST

[Ginngie]

how is that awkward?

The timestamp I gave you match ups directly?

[Ginngie]

Okay

So like

Bulba explained everything to me right

and that was on the 3rd

He explained how Tor was scum

and that linked to Cabd

and then I told him it was a headache to understand but went with it cuz trust the teammates

then after the lynch I put all my trust in Bulba's theory as it so far held true and asked clarification

I didn't fully understand until the 5th of Feb around morning time.

You can see my understanding developing throughout the game thread.

As while I took Bulba's word for it, I still let my own opinion show because I didn't have it laid all out in front of me.

However, once i did understand everything, and Cabd flip proving to our team we were pseudo correct, we had the confidence in our theory to go hail mary fake guilty a slot.

That's pretty much what happened

[Ginngie]

thoyghts

so close

[Ginngie]

Team Mafia yo

[Ginngie]

Ginngie what's the most dramatic scumgame you've ever had.

There are only two that qualify and both only become dramatic in LyLo

I fake guilties a lot as scum in LyLo because well, it's LyLo and GG.

When it's not LyLo however I'm V fucking cautious and I will try to never claim the entire game.

[Ginngie]

actually Ari bro

why is it that you no longer doing the pushing of me?

[Ginngie]

but like

the fake guilty

means I lied

about a guilty

so I lied

[Ginngie]

took you long enough

[Ginngie]

implosion/fire/pat seems like great lynch options

unless someone tells me why pat town

[Ginngie]

why tho

[Ginngie]

scumari

because the scumari has the "mari" part to flow like you're saying "mary"

but the scumstophanes sounds like you're saying two words which doesn't flow at all

[Ginngie]

Like I could be Scumgie or Towngie because my two 'n's allow for a follow of the 'm' or 'n' at the end of scum or town words

[Ginngie]

this game is hard nao

[Ginngie]

I just : (

[Ginngie]

tell me why again :S

[Ginngie]

can you qoute that serious post you did

[Ginngie]

TOWN
UnaBombaH
Eddie Cane?
Chara
Cheetory
Firebringer
Aristophanes
Spiffeh
SCUM

your girlfriend's reads regarding the wagon yesterday btw

[Ginngie]

lmao

[Ginngie]

Fire amma vote you

[Ginngie]

VOTE: FIRE

[Ginngie]

you told me wat to do

[Ginngie]

I just like

never feel like

any of your pushes are like

legit

[Ginngie]

:/

[Ginngie]

How’s university been going?

[Ginngie]

really una

[Ginngie]

what did you do, laugh?

[Ginngie]

I love the logic that I'm scum because I faked a guilty and I was so widely town read that I felt like i needed to do something that would destroy all of it

:^)

[Ginngie]

yeah that's you actually

and Implosion

lol

[Ginngie]

your vote is still on me Cheet

so I'm mad at you

[Ginngie]

If you think anything you do is more important than my ego being satiated than lol

[Ginngie]

I no longer feel bad about the guilty so you can rant and waste your time

I just want to see that unvote :^)

[Ginngie]

chara and I townblock base

[Ginngie]

explian KMD

VOTE: implosion

[Ginngie]

I don't like spiff rn

[Ginngie]

Una a lot of us know I'm town

I will understand right before M/LyLo but nothing sooner

If you don't actually have scumreads and are pushing what is essentially policy then that looks really bad

[Ginngie]

So Ginngie/Firebringer/Aristophanes/Chara are the ones leading the conversation atm.

I have no idea which of you could be scum.

This was never explained

[Ginngie]

I think one of my my main problems include Eddie being killed last night.
I can talk about that more openly once we mass-claim, but I think scum actually believed his faked softing and that "guilty" on me.
He was one of the better townplayers around, sure, but he shouldn't have been killed unless the remaining scum believed his "claim".
There would've been an avenue for mislynching him in this game for sure - especially when we would've claimed - and part of that is also because of Trans-Mulch -interactions.

Also I feel like this is self-incriminating

[Ginngie]

It reminds me of a game I saw Guilty Lion play and he talked a lot every new day about NKA and stuff and justifying things.

[Ginngie]

Honestly it feels like an admission to guilt

like I'm pretty sure I remember Eddie only being suspicious of Una last day legitimately and now the main proponent of Una!scum is dead so Una felt the need to talk about it.

[Ginngie]

I'm getting lunch and will do some research when I get back but I'm starting to lean actually scum here with Una

[Ginngie]

are you disagreeing or agreeing? I'm confused

[Ginngie]

are you disagreeing or agreeing? I'm confused

with my opinion

[Ginngie]

Cheet should know why i don’t do this as town

He’s seen me get absolutely fucked over with my team

I seriously don’t post

I don’t play

I give up

You see me say it a lot but this game largely is my ego

I’m not joking there, the better my side does

The cockier I am

If my side gets its shit kicked in, then I’m high key upset

I feel like everything is ruined, one reason i actually hate scum

Is because i hate that feeling that everything is over



Also this is really important for you to understand here.

You say the chance of me being not lynched this game is slim to none

But the thing is, I’m never lynched as town my dude

Literally only once, you’d be smart to listen to the people that actually play with me

I’m high key a transparent player regarding both town/scum

Also one final thing, literally go fuck off.

If and only if you meet these two conditions:
1. You think Ginngie and mastina would be smart enough to gambit as final scum to pull off a win comeback style
2. You think Ginngie and mastina would be dumb enough to gambit as final scum that gurauntees my lynch

If you actually hold the notion that we are simultaneously smart and also dumb then you need to check yourself for being intellectually dishonest with yourself and the others in this game.

@Cheetory

Im serious, I would really love for you to tell me how much I playing like Real Folks Blues Day 7

[Ginngie]

Btw Patrick, i answered all this and the reason I’m saying all this and asking cheet directly is because he is the rare few that got a scum game with me and also saw me in near the end game and how much I don’t actually play and give up.

He of all people should be able to differentiate the difference here and it bothers me that he doesn’t

[Ginngie]

Lmao

Point still stands

[Ginngie]

If you could not avoid the question

[Ginngie]

Great job Una

You decided to completely ignore everything else i talked about you

[Ginngie]

VOTE: Una

One of those things is literally you saying who scum is

[Ginngie]

UNA IGNORES EVERYTHING BAD ABOUT HIS PLAY TODAY

HI

CAN WE PLEASE NOTICE THIS

THANK YOU

[Ginngie]

Cheet

why in the actual fuck

do you say anything

[Ginngie]

All I want to do right now is start a shitstorm fight with you and I really dont want to do that

[Ginngie]

you're shitting me

[Ginngie]

Fire

am ask you

[Ginngie]

two tings

[Ginngie]

one

will you be my sole m8

[Ginngie]

2wo

[Ginngie]

do i rite am epik storie

like nan-chan game

[Ginngie]

I kind of feel like Spiff would hate winning here as scum with how he's performed. Like, he felt annoyed when everyone called his performance in biochem a lurkerscum win. I suspect he'd be kind of embarrassed by winning Team Mafia by underplaying this hard?

I was just about to ask your opinion on this lol

[Ginngie]

Fuck

This is such a time waster i hate it

[Ginngie]

I hate

[Ginngie]

I fucking hate

[Ginngie]

Una

This is such a fuck mothering waste of time

and quite literally

"A good fake claim does take a long time to make"

and it's pissing me off

[Ginngie]

Won’t stop me from complaining lol

[Ginngie]

Okay but Black Panther: The album

[Ginngie]

Spoiler: HowToBasic

Code: Select all

[v]Una[/v]

[Ginngie]

This is such a low power game that we need two full doc

[Ginngie]

I’m VT

[Ginngie]

What magical fuckin barrier does Una have to not be scumread

[Ginngie]

God i hate that smile

[Ginngie]

Or just not a doc at all lmao

[Ginngie]

Bored. Annoyed. She seems EXACTLY like the kind of player who would act based on those emotions as scum.

You say this but you can’t prove it

[Ginngie]

Everyone is literally VT

Una is a backup doc

You no claim

[Ginngie]

Bored. Annoyed. She seems EXACTLY like the kind of player who would act based on those emotions as scum.

You say this but you can’t prove it

This feels scummy to me.

Does this feel scummy to anyone else?

I should Iso Ginngie...

>_>

What’s scummy about asking Una to back up what he is saying?

[Ginngie]

You gonna claim or >_>

[Ginngie]

ALL VT GAME

AND A BACKUP DOC

[Ginngie]

WITH AN INFORMED MAFIA

AND A 1 SHOT ROLE BLOCKER

[Ginngie]

I wanna see Ari Iso dive me

[Ginngie]

Also wanna see it live

I dont want a big ole case cuz lol!teammates

[Ginngie]

no like live interactions

not something you can set up like preparing a speech

P-edit: read Chara's p-edit

[Ginngie]

Chara is paranoid that Cheet is paranoid

[Ginngie]

no no

you're paranoid not knowing if he is or isn't paranoid

you're paranoid of the paranoia

[Ginngie]

a;dj a;ga;hs gka fdaskg ajs;gjasg

[Ginngie]

lol implosion has 3 scumreads and there is only one scum

[Ginngie]

I'm at Ari/Imp/Una tbh

[Ginngie]

lol Ari has two scum reads and forgot the rule of 3

[Ginngie]

will you be my sole m8

[Ginngie]

Chara/Ginngie scumteam, game solved.

CHARA WE DONE BEEN GOT

[Ginngie]

lol Fire probs knows me the best out of the whole playlist

[Ginngie]

I mean

normally I'd hold that opinion if mastina was in this game lol

but Fire also has like a perfect read rate on me as well

Also I forget the context of what I said that in cuz I remember waking up/ranting and going back to sleep

[Ginngie]

oh and chesskid but the Kagami slot is dead

[Ginngie]

I want to give Cheet's thoughts on Ari some weight because he apparently knows him so well, and Ari seems like the kind of player that's very readable if you know him. Looking at his ISO in a scum game and a town one, I didn't get a very clear impression at all of the differences, and neither seemed especially similar to here. In the scum game I actually felt like his posts were a bit MORE game related and focussed, and lower in number, with a lower number of emoticons (Blessed Mafia). In camn's town game he posted a lot more than here or the Werewolf game, with a decent mixture of content and banter. I can't get a good feel for tone at all, and am probably looking at entirely the wrong things.

Looking at his stuff this game, some of his day 3 posts really do suggest he thinks the game is over: 3206 3306 3316 Dunno if he posts those as scum. Cheet mentioned that he himself would lurk out this period as scum, and if what he's saying about Ari's scumgame is correct, wouldn't Ari just lurk this out as scum?

2988 looks so town in some ways, and yet it bothers me how different this post feels to everything else he's posted.

I liked 3424 at the time, and still do. After that, meh.

Ari:

Can you talk about your Chara read a bit? It doesn't have to be something huge, but I feel like you've brought them up a few times even as far back as day 1, but never really talked about it.

Cheetory made a pretty strong case, but looking at Ari's posts was less conclusive than I thought. I could imagine him being scum, but I have to squint a bit and probably ignore what my gut tells me. I still think it's more likely to be Ginngie, but I don't have anything I can add to what I've said before on that. Unabombah melts my brain with some of his posts, but I still think his content is more... attackable rather than scummy?

[Ginngie]

bad vote

[Ginngie]

vote Ari

[Ginngie]

KMD has some really unfortunate reads on Day 1 with defending both Mulch and Cabd while mostly going after Kagami who has flipped town

I do think he would have really overextended on defending Mulch if he were his scum buddy but it's possible he thinks that's necessary with only a 3-man scum team. There are a few things I find odd and make it a little more unlikely for KMD to be the final scum buddy:

Re: Cabd

sounds like he's claiming Friendly Neighbor, which probably makes him town.

Independent of that, I've been a little fence-ish on him in general, but I have a reason (which I don't think will be respected by the crowd) to think that he's unlikely to pick up a scum PM for him team.

I remain curious what exactly he expects from me, as he knows I'm not a super-interactive player. I continue to expect something and remain patiently waiting.

Not sure where you are getting friendly neighbor from, but I'm surprised you'd be so quick to believe it considering you won a game as scum where your partner fakeclaimed friendly neighbor.

Not only does KMD seem to not even be aware that Cabd was claiming friendly neighbor, he scolds Kagami on believing it in the first place.
If KMD were scum with Cabd, I would expect
1. Cabd to brief his scum buddies on his planned fake claim so KMD should probably know about it
2. KMD to not shit all over a friendly neighbor claim if he knows his scum buddy is trying to save himself with one

Also this gives me pause

I only have one reason for reading him because the way he plays makes it hard to take him seriously. He has like 300 posts. Probably two are readable. So good luck finding them. As I've said before, if you want to policy Lynch him I'm not against it especially because it's what my team wants anyway. It just feels weird to do it when I think he's town. I will say I'd rather Lynch mulch than cabd.

because Mulch clearly had the better role and if given the choice scum!KMD would probably prefer to keep the roleblock over what was basically a goon. Especially since KMD had done so much work defending Mulch throughout the game, he wouldn't have had to make up a reason to justify wanting Cabd lynched over Mulch.

None of these are really smoking gun material for KMD's towniness but it's enough to make me doubt that he's the third scum.

goodposting