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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:24 am
by Ether
Day 4, Votecount 17


You are the shit supreme
Who can't play as a team
Hounding relentlessly
Still bus and I don't know why
If we're winning handily
Why are you attacking me
At one lynch to victory
Why are you attacking me
-[
Clarity,
Zedd
]
3 Aristophanes (Firebringer, Cheetory6, Chara)
2 Ginngie (Patrick, UnaBombaH)
1 Chara (Kmd4390)
1 Firebringer (implosion)
1 UnaBombaH (Ginngie)

2 Unvote (Aristophanes, Spiffeh)

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.
The deadline is in (expired on 2018-02-23 01:00:00), on Friday, February 23 at 1:00 am EST.



Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:26 am
by Spiffeh
Maybe we'll just lynch scum here and this will all be inconsequential

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:27 am
by Patrick
I think that's the punchline, yep

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:28 am
by Cheetory6
I'm probably just going to listen to Chara next time they tell me I'm doing something stupid.

P-Edit: I hope so.
I'm finding the setup as it stands to be impossible from a design standpoint when it's Ether who created it.
So, mostly just going to have faith that Ether wouldn't give scum two PRs and then town nothing when she's pretty behind the "town are fucking stupid idiots" movement.
Even with one extra mislynch, I don't really see how this setup can work, at all.

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:30 am
by Cheetory6
Well, while we're waiting to find out the exact magnitude of self-pity I should feel, anyone have any reason why Aristophanes isn't scum that isn't just him being unlikely to take it?

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:30 am
by Spiffeh
He's next on my "look at associations with flipped scum" list so I'll let you know soon!

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:44 am
by Patrick
In post 3904, Cheetory6 wrote:anyone have any reason why Aristophanes isn't scum that isn't just him being unlikely to take it
In my punchline above, he's the one who's flipping scum today. I've got it all worked out.

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:01 am
by Cheetory6
Ari is still lurking instead of being here. The engagement is just way too consistent with what I would expect from scum who knows that there's no point in trying to fight against this because he can't win the long-game.
Also think townAri probably replaces out by now.
There's also that I think his presence in the game has been pretty wooden the last little while:
Aristophanes wrote:In theory I suppose I could, however this is not how I ay as scum.

When I'm scum I play in fear. I don't comment in the thread because things are working and I kniw I'll screw it up. When things aren't working I assume its hopeless and rhus also don't post. I can't fake reads for shit and I don't rib with people because it all sounds fake! That's why, as scum, my most active time is RVS. Because nobody is playing an alignment yet really and I can have some fun before fear and death settle in!

Compare that with my play here. I have been sparse, but providing content when I can, including reads and pokes at people for more. I have been ribbing with people and having some fun. It's simply and unfakably my town game!

Also, I never choose scum here.
Stuff like this.. it's kind of hard to articulate but I just don't really believe that he genuinely feels this? Like, the last sentence should feel way more incredulous.
I really feel like townAri is like "how in the world do you guys think that I would pick scum here :lol: " vs what we're getting here. It just doesn't really line up with my expectation of him as a person?
Like, I don't feel like he thinks that we should know better than this, which is a quality that I feel would be oozing from him in his responses to getting pushed here.

He had the really wonky townread on Mulch for a single post which didn't really make any sense.
He literally followed up to tell me to stop voting for Mulch because he made a single post that he thought was town.
There hasn't been a single other player this game that he's done anything like that with.

Gamma was following along closely enough to notice me mentioning him, but he has no reads/input on the game itself.

There hasn't been any significant/real effort to try to find who scum is at any point.

I have some reason to doubt every other player as scum, but the only thing I have for Ari is that I don't understand why he would choose to suffer through a scumgame in team mafia. There's nothing contained within the context of the game itself.

If I'm wrong about him then I think it either has to be implosion or Firebringer.
And beyond that I just struggle to imagine anyone else being scum here.

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:26 am
by Spiffeh
In post 3907, Cheetory6 wrote:Gamma was following along closely enough to notice me mentioning him, but he has no reads/input on the game itself.
Yeah this is probably the biggest indicator of scum in this game

Teammates following along but not having any input are probably not teammates of a town player

There's literally no point in following along if you're not going to give any reads and discuss things with the player actually in the game

(I have to check the actual context of this but as it is now it's p. damning)

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:41 am
by Aristophanes
Oh lol a wagon.

I'm only ~12 pages behind so Ill see what this is about soon!
Inb4 lurking.

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:47 am
by Patrick
Mad props to Cheet for passing the time by scumhunting.

Ari, it's ok to confess at this point. Mulch and cabd let you down, people will understand.

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:52 am
by Firebringer
Lol I kind of think unabomeh is scum and there’s no power roles this game.

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:57 am
by Patrick
There is no chance at all that Ether makes it a hidden mountainous setup where town has an even worse ratio than is normal.

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:57 am
by Aristophanes
In post 3910, Patrick wrote:Mad props to Cheet for passing the time by scumhunting.

Ari, it's ok to confess at this point. Mulch and cabd let you down, people will understand.
Patrick, I am not scum. Lemme read up and see what I can do before stinging me up, eh?
What happened to the townlean from before?

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:59 am
by Patrick
Ari, you can say your team made you do it. It's not like you chose this!

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:00 am
by Cheetory6
In post 2988, Aristophanes wrote:Also, Trans!Slot is town for sure after their constant attacks, yes? I don't think that was Scum Theatre.
In post 3269, Aristophanes wrote:Ginngie, why are you getting worked up?

Today we lynch Tor. If somehow he was town, we lynch you. If you then are also town, Eddie eats rope.

One of you three is scum, prolly Tor atm.

Why get worked up like this? lol
Kind of feel like this analysis is shallow too given his stance on Eddieslot.
Really the whole stance doesn't really make sense too?
Why does he think Eddie makes sense as a third lynch?

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:03 am
by Patrick
In post 3913, Aristophanes wrote:Patrick, I am not scum. Lemme read up and see what I can do before stinging me up, eh?What happened to the townlean from before?
Partly things posted since then, partly I'm playing along, partly something I don't want to go into just yet.

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:03 am
by Aristophanes
In post 3915, Cheetory6 wrote:
In post 2988, Aristophanes wrote:Also, Trans!Slot is town for sure after their constant attacks, yes? I don't think that was Scum Theatre.
In post 3269, Aristophanes wrote:Ginngie, why are you getting worked up?

Today we lynch Tor. If somehow he was town, we lynch you. If you then are also town, Eddie eats rope.

One of you three is scum, prolly Tor atm.

Why get worked up like this? lol
Kind of feel like this analysis is shallow too given his stance on Eddieslot.
Really the whole stance doesn't really make sense too?
Why does he think Eddie makes sense as a third lynch?
Interactions at the time pointed to Eddie as the strongest possibility. If Ginngie was town Eddie pushing and propagating a narrative to get both lynched made sense from a final scum trying to capitalize on as many mislynches as possible.

That was where my logic came from.

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:05 am
by Firebringer
In post 3912, Patrick wrote:There is no chance at all that Ether makes it a hidden mountainous setup where town has an even worse ratio than is normal.
Normally I agree but this is a 15 player game.
I could see unabomeh as scum back up doctor trying to place lots of crumbs everywhere hoping for a real doc claim

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:06 am
by Cheetory6
In post 3918, Firebringer wrote:Normally I agree but this is a 15 player game.
psssst fire there's a white flag setup being run at the same time as this that has 15 players.

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:06 am
by Firebringer
Hiii my name is fire

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:07 am
by Cheetory6
In post 3917, Aristophanes wrote:Interactions at the time pointed to Eddie as the strongest possibility. If Ginngie was town Eddie pushing and propagating a narrative to get both lynched made sense from a final scum trying to capitalize on as many mislynches as possible.

That was where my logic came from.
And so that just completely torpedo-ed your stance on Transcend vs Mulch?

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:09 am
by Aristophanes
In post 3921, Cheetory6 wrote:
In post 3917, Aristophanes wrote:Interactions at the time pointed to Eddie as the strongest possibility. If Ginngie was town Eddie pushing and propagating a narrative to get both lynched made sense from a final scum trying to capitalize on as many mislynches as possible.

That was where my logic came from.
And so that just completely torpedo-ed your stance on Transcend vs Mulch?
Holy shit I forgot they replaced them :facepalm:

I mean, it did, but because I forgot they were the same person.
I'm such a dumbass! XD

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:09 am
by Firebringer
Yea I can’t think of ether being that troll actually the more I think about it

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:14 am
by Cheetory6
In post 3913, Aristophanes wrote:Patrick, I am not scum. Lemme read up and see what I can do before stinging me up, eh?
What's the timeline on this?