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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:07 am
by Bulbazak
In post 3699, Archwing wrote:she's trying to say my slot was trying to defend scum!LLD, then bussed when the defense was inevitable.
I was confused, because she initially seemed to suggest that she liked the vote.
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:08 am
by Bins
In post 1022, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Also Transcend probably town. Eddie was awful and Transcend's posting isn't much better but just based on how they entered post the incident and how everything has gone, Transcend is town.
So
Bulbazak,T-Bone, UC Voyager
You have 24 hours to remove your vote from that player and put it on someone else or I'm going to lynch you because at this point my patience is at zero.
In post 1023, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:What else can I say while I still give enough of a fuck to be thinking
T-Bone probably town. CDB Probably town. Hard to pars Bins because it's low content and what content I've read is pure paranoia and nonsense.
Smocaine is vote parking me and doing nothing so ???
OH, Dunker is super fucking town.
In post 1024, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Keychain maybe town, not sure, kinda just neutral on it all.
I'd lynch like
Any of:
Elena
Bulba
Smocaine
Aero
UC Voyager
Bins
I'm not sure what the fuck to think about Almost50. I wanna read again through their ISO but that kind of :effort: makes me want to fucking hang myself while blowing my brains out with a fucking revolver so.
nah keychain town
I’m saying I’m not sure how to read what UCV did unless someone in scum PT was like “hey UCV, time to bus!”
Worried that UCV slot is obvious mislynch like how I totally overlooked with Aeronaut (because of LLD posts)
@Arch - sort of, I’m saying that it seems too obvious but I don’t know what to expect from UCV
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:08 am
by Bins
oops i didn’t mean to quote those
look at them anyway
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:10 am
by Bins
i’m so struggling to find a top scumread rn and mina was too so unsure why she died
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:19 am
by Bins
I think I’d like to look at Radja
and I also want DV input and I want to sort there
Paranoia on those two slots is extreme and I want one dead I think
Unfortunately I think it puts my townreads more as partners for them like Bulba
because Archwing is definitely not their partner
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:28 am
by Bins
In post 2094, Radja wrote:really? You'd kill a claimed VT on night 1? Especially someone who got wagoned a LOT during day 1?
Also I never really answered Mina (may she rest in peace)
but Radjas reaction to the NK and reaction to also people saying he’d do the NK was why I re-assessed my read
I don’t know
Keychain is town (please)
Dunker is town
Archwing isn’t partners with Radja, DV
SMOCAINE WAS STILL TOWN KILL ME
That’s my head
I also think one of {Smocaine, UCV, Bulba} is scum for LLD reasons
Which one? All seem unlikely
Anyways town people please be town and help work this out
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:29 am
by Bins
god Bulba is town zzzzzzzzzzz
Nevermind idk
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:34 am
by Bins
also massclaim or nah
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:39 am
by Archwing
right, so
Archwing
Dunker
bins
bulba
radja, deas, keychain
I think at least one scum in the bottom three there, possibly two.
In post 1024, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Keychain maybe town, not sure, kinda just neutral on it all.
I'd lynch like
Any of:
Elena
Bulba
Smocaine
Aero
UC Voyager
(to me)
Bins
I'm not sure what the fuck to think about Almost50. I wanna read again through their ISO but that kind of :effort: makes me want to fucking hang myself while blowing my brains out with a fucking revolver so.
^^ makes me think at least one scum in there.
PoE that with above, leads me preliminarily, scum!deas
pedit; I wondered about massclaim.
we still have one more mislynch before lylo tho right? i don't have much experience, but is massclaim better before lylo or during?
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:41 am
by Bulbazak
In post 3704, Bins wrote:I think I’d like to look at Radja
and I also want DV input and I want to sort there
Paranoia on those two slots is extreme and I want one dead I think
I don't think they can be scum together, though. Radja is the next ISO I plan to go through. I'm just putting it off right now, because I hate going through ISOs.
How are you ruling this out? I'm going to be looking at PoE pools after ISOs. Any additional information would help.
Also, what are you looking at in relation to the LLD slot?
P-edit: I'm against massclaiming in general.
Also, am I the only one questioning my Dunker read?
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:43 am
by Archwing
iirc dunker is shit at scum.
and i know comp spec has already had its time.... but I really really don't think dunker takes scum in his group
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:04 am
by Bulbazak
Yeah, but going through his ISO, he mentioned how he likes playing scum. So idk?
My initial townread was for the way he was posting, i.e. the flow. But as I went through the ISO, I was liking his posting less and less. I ruled him out as scum, because I did remember his way of posting being different and him not being as good, but maybe something has changed since the last time I played against scum Dunker (note to self: look to see when this was). If he does like playing scum, maybe he stepped up his game. Stance-wise, he's sucked big time this game. Any big name player this game, name them, he's gone after them: Math, A50, T-Bone, Mina, DV. I think he even started on me, but didn't really push it. So either he's scum that everyone underestimated, or he just sucks and will end up being a liability. I'm trying to figure out which.
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:04 am
by Bulbazak
I need to look at d1 VC info now...
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:05 am
by Archwing
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:05 am
by Archwing
I'll read up on that dunker scum stuff later today and see what you're talking about.
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:06 am
by Bulbazak
Ugh. If I hate going through ISO information for this game, do you really think I'm going to meta-dive you? Looking and verifying timing info was bad enough.
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:11 am
by Archwing
Not saying you have to!
You asked if anyone had any experience with me. I'm just putting it out in the open, if you or anyone else cares to read it.
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:21 am
by Archwing
In post 238, Dunkerdoodles wrote:yeah that's a bad reason cause
1. we already discussed how this is a bad reason
2. i love playing scum
In post 148, Dunkerdoodles wrote:earlier on when you guys were talking about meta he for some reason didn't talk about his and tried to avoid it i feel
pedit: well tbh i honestly wanted scum but we drew 5 town pms so
In post 269, Dunkerdoodles wrote:boon had eddie as scum but now he has him as town.
also has tbone at scum
screen has math and key as town, elena eddie and a50 as scumlean
In post 876, Dunkerdoodles wrote:bins is town
elena might be scum but no
i have changed my mind and decided to scumread math again
VOTE: mathdino
super quick iso dive (didn't pull out everything I saw) showed a lot of defense of dunker on Bins. All of dunker's d1 reads (including teammates) are all flipped townies. Not much of a discussion point as a reference for me to pick up again when I have more time.
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:41 am
by Bulbazak
Checked back over my games. Most recent game with Dunker is TBD2. Was iffy on him, but gave him a pass the first day or so, because his play was similar enough that I wasn't sure. Others saw through it, but I placed him at null until I could sort him later (Never did. Was day vigged.). It is conceivable for him to have improved since then or to have stepped up his game for Team Mafia. The question is whether he's capable at faking his stream of consciousness posting as scum.
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:18 am
by Radja
In post 3689, Bulbazak wrote:I'm mulling something over in my head right now, and I want someone with UCV experience to tell me if he's a clinical player or not. This is important. Thank you.
Shea want you to clarify what you mean by "clinical player". He has some UCV experience.
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:22 am
by Bins
Let's massclaim imo
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:22 am
by Radja
All that's left in my lynchpool is DV and Bins so I'm wondering if I can be wrong about one of them. If someone can tell me why either of them is town, I'd love to hear it.
Pedit - why?
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:24 am
by Bins
because town should have what?
two more PRs?
that's two people i dont have to worry about
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:25 am
by Bulbazak
In post 3719, Radja wrote: In post 3689, Bulbazak wrote:I'm mulling something over in my head right now, and I want someone with UCV experience to tell me if he's a clinical player or not. This is important. Thank you.
Shea want you to clarify what you mean by "clinical player". He has some UCV experience.
I'm wondering at how he'd express level of certainty. Is he word focused or number focused? Absolute certainty or never? Expressed as "mostly certainty" or via a percentage?
I hope that helps.
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:26 am
by Bins
In post 3709, Bulbazak wrote:I don't think they can be scum together, though. Radja is the next ISO I plan to go through. I'm just putting it off right now, because I hate going through ISOs.
i think they can
but i dont think DV pushing arch was bussing
arch/radja might work too i guess