Team Mafia 2018: Inventions Mafia Day 4

[Smocaine]

evee used teleport!

[singersigner]

Alright all, I've asked my team to take a look at this game because I just came off of a 20hr shift and have another 10hr shift tonight with a packed schedule to catch up on through Wednesday. I hope I'll have something coherent to post with their help soon.

[singersigner]

Ok so here's what I've got before heading out again --

Creature has a general consensus of "wouldn't pick scum" and less likely to pull off a great double-bus based off his reads of Mastin and RC.

Same for chesskid being unlikely to double-bus.

Lol, apparently I missed where my team was making fun of EP's readlist before I replaced in since it all amounted to neutral (though I think I picked up on that when replacing in anyway...just missed my team's teasing ). It looked/s unnatural since it should've been pretty easy to at least throw a read on someone.

I only got minor feedback on BYF which amounted to "don't remember his posting" so I'll see if anyone else comes back with anything more substantial than Patrick (yes Patrick I'm calling you out ).

GuiltyLion seems to be the most scumread in that none of his posts have given town vibes.

At this point I'm fine with assuming it's one of EP or GL but I'm not voting anywhere until the rest of my team checks in and I can funnel their thoughts.

[Errantparabola]

Lol, apparently I missed where my team was making fun of EP's readlist before I replaced in since it all amounted to neutral (though I think I picked up on that when replacing in anyway...just missed my team's teasing ). It looked/s unnatural since it should've been pretty easy to at least throw a read on someone.

I'm not a very opinionated person.
If it's pretty easy to "throw a read" on someone then why is not doing that unnatural? Wouldn't artificially inflating or creating a read without any conviction behind it be the actual unnatural thing? What do you mean by "throw a read" in this sense?

I understand that I haven't been playing great and I take responsibility for that, but you constantly,

constantly

throwing shade on me for things that aren't actually scummy is really tiresome. If you're actually town then put your money where your mouth is and fight for my lynch instead of dancing around it day after day after day.

[singersigner]

I mean, I will. I'm just hoping my team can see something I'm not right now.

"Throwing a read" = gut anything. I'm not saying you had to artificially inflate anything, but the fact that you claim you couldn't concerns me. I get not having opinions, I often have very few, but I can offer a few where I'm able. Being non-committal means you can just go with the popular opinion which is a really convenient place for scum to position themselves in.

Why do you even play if you don't/won't have opinions on the game?

[Errantparabola]

Why do you even play if you don't/won't have opinions on the game?

Are you talking about now? Are you talking about before?

[Errantparabola]

Actually, I'm supremely confident that this game will end in town win with this course of action.

Elect: Errantparabola

VOTE: GuiltyLion

If you'd rather give tracker to someone else, BYF's not a bad choice either.

[Errantparabola]

unofficial VC, I think:

guiltylion (L-2): BYF, EP

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EP (T-1): lion, EP, BYF
Smocaine (T-3): Smocaine

[Something_Smart]

Elect: Errantparabola

[Something_Smart]

By the way, in case anyone accuses me of hammering him because I think he's unlikely to track me... that's exactly why I hammered him.

[BigYoshiFan]

I like the honesty. Prodge.

[BigYoshiFan]

Not sure if it matters at this point, but I'll be V/LA until Friday.
Taking the ACT tomorrow. Pray for me.

[Errantparabola]

Praying like I’ve never prought before. Crush that test. Get that 36 (or was it 35?)

[Something_Smart]

Not sure if it matters at this point, but I'll be V/LA until Friday.
Taking the ACT tomorrow. Pray for me.

Good luck!

[GuiltyLion]

what is the "type of thing" I'm doing here that you would expect me to do as scum?

Trying to keep your options open as much as possible and trying to establish the exact set of actions required for you to make it to LYLO.

I'm not saying you wouldn't do it as town but it's exactly what I'd expect scum-you to try.

this doesn't really make sense - what options have I been trying to keep open for myself? Which of those three posts is doing that? I'm readily accepting the lynch today

push Smart on this tomorrow if he isn't tracker cleared, he's probably the mandatory lynch if EP dies tonight. also I think EP's posts today have felt hella town

[Something_Smart]

You were attempting to direct what the town should do without really proposing any strong reads. While that does make sense from the POV of you being the lynch, it really didn't seem like that was the angle you were taking. Of course that could be me misreading, but it looked at that time like you thought there would be a decent chance that you wouldn't be lynched. (And of course, if you were scum you'd need to show a little nonchalance toward being lynched.)

Let me turn the question around though... what would be the scum motivation in only shading you today, after you are the obvious lynch?

By the way, since I now recognize that you are in fact expecting to be lynched, I will discount the possibility that you are scum in the rest of my discussion today.

[singersigner]

what is the "type of thing" I'm doing here that you would expect me to do as scum?

Trying to keep your options open as much as possible and trying to establish the exact set of actions required for you to make it to LYLO.

I'm not saying you wouldn't do it as town but it's exactly what I'd expect scum-you to try.

this doesn't really make sense - what options have I been trying to keep open for myself? Which of those three posts is doing that? I'm readily accepting the lynch today

push Smart on this tomorrow if he isn't tracker cleared, he's probably the mandatory lynch if EP dies tonight.

also I think EP's posts today have felt hella town

How?

[singersigner]

I'm going to leave this here before I rake up 30 pages myself. To be continued.

Summary of my evening:

Hinduragi, xRECKONERx, Something_Smart town.
Possibly scum but not ISO'd yet: GL, RC.

Previous lock town reads: Yoshi, ErrantParabola, Creature, Singersigner.
Previous scum read: Aneninen.

Well, there are still like 20 minutes of pro-towness to make use of.

What does everyone think about electing a scum/scum read to hide behind a scum/null read?
I think it’s to dangerous to have a town read in the mix. I would rather risk someone unsorted or hard to sort.

Omg GL is scum af - I remember his message from Dino that I'm town for this train of thought alone - but he neglected to mention srceenplay or RC for being the first to mention it prior to me.

I have some ideas for why this might be but most of them end in a GL scum conclusion.

@GuiltyLion wh4t is your reason for this please?

Hi GL

Answer please.

@p-edit: Cheeky the Dino "cheeky town because of her bad hider plan" thing wasn't a serious read/justification, we just both happened to be on Discord and talking about the game at the same time and he threw that comment out and I repeated him

What's your read on me now and why?

Interestingly enough, this was the final progression of thoughts from Cheeky regarding GuiltyLion. Also doesn't point to EP killing someone who was explicitly townreading him...

[beeboy]

Day 4, VC 2

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch.

GuiltyLion (2)

- BigYoshiFan, Errantparabola

Not Voting (5)

- Something_Smart, singersigner, Smocaine, GuiltyLion, Creature

Deadline:

(expired on 2018-03-08 23:02:16)

Invention Vote

1-shot Tracker: During the night you may target another player and learn who they visited during the night if anyone.

ErrantParabola (4)

- GuiltyLion, Errantparabola, BigYoshiFan, Something_Smart

Smocaine (1)

- Smocaine

Not Voting (3)

- singersigner, Creature

ErrantParabola has been elected for the day and the invention vote will be removed from the vote count.

[singersigner]

Well, I was hoping there'd be a votecount up before announcing that I know what I'm going to do buuut...

Now that we have a Mina on our team I'm going to see if there's any fresh perspectives/opinions on this game.

Otherwise I'm going to vote GuiltyLion and Elect EP...

when the time comes

.

[singersigner]

Oh, lol, well that also works.

Ok so lurky lurky what's going on with this game??

[Creature]

VOTE: GuiltyLion

L-1

[Creature]

GL or BYF then

[Creature]

Game's not progressing.

[Smocaine]

L-1 hype