The Scummies, 2011... Live! (ish)

[Vi]

1) Exploit mith's weak sexuality for the benefit of the masses
2) Be asexual
3) Profit

D is the answer.

Is this accounting for Mith's Minions?

[Vi]

Hey, that was my... actual... application for Site Owner.

credit to hito for helping smooth it out

This kind of rejection is hard to take. brb Xanax

[Vi]

Also congratulations to the winners - a lot of new Scummy winners this go-round.

[Vi]

We judged "Funniest Poster" based on in-game posts, not out of game.

By "we" are you speaking as a member of the Scummies Judging Committee? because that's not how I understood it...

And "Name Should be in Orange" has generally gone to list mods, admins, etc.. Vi & Tierce are the exception, but even they won the award for maintain the mafia wiki and saving mafia games (respectively).

1) ITT Feysal, Haylen, etc. don't exist?
2) What's the point of giving "Name Should Be In

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Orange" to actual admins?
3) Why isn't "Name Should Be In Orange" an award given to the most obvious

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sympathizer?
4) Etc.

[Vi]

Me, Tierce, and Feysal are all staff if you kind of torture the logic a little.

[Vi]

You're taking things too seriously, Haylen.

current avatar appropriate for this post, per usual

[Vi]

Also how will the badges work for the orange award? Because of the phrase 'and everyone else who helped...' do feysal, tierce, vm and me get one or none of us? Cause I want a badge to make my profile fancy. Although don't expect one.

The same way they worked in 2009, probably.

[Vi]

Also how will the badges work for the orange award? Because of the phrase 'and everyone else who helped...' do feysal, tierce, vm and me get one or none of us? Cause I want a badge to make my profile fancy. Although don't expect one.

The same way they worked in 2009, probably.

I joined a month(?) after the 2009 scummies happened.

Well *I* got the 2009 Name/Orange Scummy.

[Vi]

Also how will the badges work for the orange award? Because of the phrase 'and everyone else who helped...' do feysal, tierce, vm and me get one or none of us? Cause I want a badge to make my profile fancy. Although don't expect one.

The same way they worked in 2009, probably.

I joined a month(?) after the 2009 scummies happened.

Well *I* got the 2009 Name/Orange Scummy.

In your first year? What was that for?

...actually I think it was 2010. I may have typod the Scummies page? I'll have to go back and check.

[Vi]

2009 had everyone (literally; You won a Scummie).

There's

the joke I was trying to make. So many people missed out~~

[Vi]

So did everyone have the badge for a year?

Nope. That's the other thing I was getting at; there probably won't be badges because there were so many people and the group is difficult to cleanly and fairly define.*

*Caveat: In terms of site administration, what I predict has an 80% track record of being incorrect.**

**Caveat to Caveat: Whether adding the above caveat to my predictions

reverses

the effect and makes it more likely to be true has not been fully studied yet.

[Vi]

Mafia MetaMafia was his point.

Yeah, Team Mafia might have had a chance in other years but zorotter was competing against the HIGH PRIEST OF MR. FLAY.~

[Vi]

Magua won that category I thought?

That's the joke. Mr. Flay missed it too but everything is his fault so etc.

[Vi]

In fact, Magua's Marketplace mechanic was more "stale" than Team Mafia, as buy-your-powers have been done time and time again... I still think he's perfectly deserving of an award, but I know for our group, if Team Mafia had been up there in the finals, it would've been a slam dunk victory.

Here's to hoping Team Mafia 2012 actually wins it.

"I still think he's perfectly deserving of an award" very obviously in practice means

He should not have gotten an award

. Scummies are zero-sum.

Here's to me challenging Team Mafia 2012.

[Vi]

Not really. The best people for the award don't always win. It's not a perfect science. People who don't win can be deserving, as can those that do.

I don't disagree. But there's only one award. The problem is more systemic than a matter of a preferred candidate not winning.

[Vi]

I certainly don't begrudge Magua winning an award even if I think our game should have won it instead.

What you've been doing kind of looks precisely like begrudging Magua winning an award though.

I mean

I don't think it's necessarily wrong to say that Magua was a deserving winner, but shouldn't have won.

"oh second place should have been FINE for Magua! He did such a good job."

Now, and listen to this--

Based on wild hearsay that I might just be making up but I'm probably not, there were four-ish games in contention for the award.
*Maf. MetaMafia
*RPG Maf.
*Team Maf.
*Marketplace Maf.
off the top of my head.

All of them took a ludicrous amount of effort over and beyond your average game, were mechanically successful, and would all be good candidates for an award. Furthermore, Scummies aren't AFAIK intended to be some lifetime achievement award (unless you're MeMe); they're roughly a measure of who's hot right now. Would it be wrong or otherwise a bad idea to turn the winner-takes-all Scummies we have now and create a one-to-five-person WINNING! tier over and above the rest of the nominees?

[Vi]

So there are actually fewer contenders per award class...
Getting away from a focus on one winner may still not be a bad thing, but it's not as big an issue as I thought.