Team Mafia 2020: Open Setup - Game Over

[Nancy Drew 39]

Nope we can’t - not if you seriously expect me to work with you. You’re of course welcome to your shitty reqe in me but I’m not working with you, for as long as you have it, same goes for Amrun.

Now I know DDL is correctly reading me, so I’m not opposed but I really don’t appreciate you insulting my intelligence here.

[Titus]

If you aren't, yes I would be. His partner would be NaCl.

These are battles we can fight another day.

@Elsa Jay, Please back on Pisskop.

*sigh*. How am I supposed to trust either yours or Amrun’s reads in that case?

UNVOTE:

I’ll work with you or whomever is correctly reading me. Ask to work with me then and not a moment sooner.

This is frustrating. I have to be honest with you that I don't have you as lock town, but I still want to work with you in case you are.

I don't think you suspect me either. The rest of town doesn't suspect you. So why is it a problem to vote a mutual scumread with me?

This is the same crap RC pulls and it's annoying.

[Titus]

I don't see being candid is insulting your intelligence and I'm sorry you feel that way. No one likes that.

[Nancy Drew 39]

If you aren't, yes I would be. His partner would be NaCl.

These are battles we can fight another day.

@Elsa Jay, Please back on Pisskop.

*sigh*. How am I supposed to trust either yours or Amrun’s reads in that case?

UNVOTE:

I’ll work with you or whomever is correctly reading me. Ask to work with me then and not a moment sooner.

This is frustrating. I have to be honest with you that I don't have you as lock town, but I still want to work with you in case you are.

I don't think you suspect me either. The rest of town doesn't suspect you. So why is it a problem to vote a mutual scumread with me?

This is the same crap RC pulls and it's annoying.

You just pretty much said if Piss flips town, it’s me, didn’t you or did I read that wrong?

[Titus]

If you aren't, yes I would be. His partner would be NaCl.

These are battles we can fight another day.

@Elsa Jay, Please back on Pisskop.

*sigh*. How am I supposed to trust either yours or Amrun’s reads in that case?

UNVOTE:

I’ll work with you or whomever is correctly reading me. Ask to work with me then and not a moment sooner.

This is frustrating. I have to be honest with you that I don't have you as lock town, but I still want to work with you in case you are.

I don't think you suspect me either. The rest of town doesn't suspect you. So why is it a problem to vote a mutual scumread with me?

This is the same crap RC pulls and it's annoying.

You just pretty much said if Piss flips town, it’s me, didn’t you or did I read that wrong?

That's what I would likely suspect, yes. I think I'd be alone and just vote park NaCl though.

[Nancy Drew 39]

I don't see being candid is insulting your intelligence and I'm sorry you feel that way. No one likes that.

It’s insulting because you’re asking me to trust your reads and how can I, if I’m in your PoE and I know that to be wrong?

[Nancy Drew 39]

If you aren't, yes I would be. His partner would be NaCl.

These are battles we can fight another day.

@Elsa Jay, Please back on Pisskop.

*sigh*. How am I supposed to trust either yours or Amrun’s reads in that case?

UNVOTE:

I’ll work with you or whomever is correctly reading me. Ask to work with me then and not a moment sooner.

This is frustrating. I have to be honest with you that I don't have you as lock town, but I still want to work with you in case you are.

I don't think you suspect me either. The rest of town doesn't suspect you. So why is it a problem to vote a mutual scumread with me?

This is the same crap RC pulls and it's annoying.

You just pretty much said if Piss flips town, it’s me, didn’t you or did I read that wrong?

That's what I would likely suspect, yes. I think I'd be alone and just vote park NaCl though.

How are you seriously not getting my issue with this?

[Titus]

I think NaCl is scum in either setup. He's my most preferred but Pisskop is the only one I might get.

Nancy, my PoE is wider than the pool. So, you don't know that I'm wrong. It could be Pisskop NaCl. Town don't have to agree on everything. Town can do what they agree on and fight later. We have a lot of conftown so we'll be able to argue on where we disagree later

[Titus]

*Wider than the team

[Nancy Drew 39]

K, let me break this down for you. You’re 100% dead wrong on me. If you can’t read me correctly, then I can’t trust your other reads. Are you freaking getting it now?

[Nancy Drew 39]

I think NaCl is scum in either setup. He's my most preferred but Pisskop is the only one I might get.

Nancy, my PoE is wider than the pool. So, you don't know that I'm wrong. It could be Pisskop NaCl. Town don't have to agree on everything. Town can do what they agree on and fight later. We have a lot of conftown so we'll be able to argue on where we disagree later

Only on ME, Titus! I KNOW you’re wrong on ME.

[Titus]

No. A PoE of three must be wrong somewhere. When I try to work with you and express concerns, it's like pulling teeth. It makes me feel, because of how aggressively you defend my pool, you could be scum with them. The VCA doesn't help you at all.

This contributes to your mistrust of my capabilities and is leading to you initiating a power struggle.

I don't need to lock town you to work with you. Sometimes reaching out is a sorting tool.

[Nancy Drew 39]

No. A PoE of three must be wrong somewhere. When I try to work with you and express concerns, it's like pulling teeth. It makes me feel, because of how aggressively you defend my pool, you could be scum with them. The VCA doesn't help you at all.

This contributes to your mistrust of my capabilities and is leading to you initiating a power struggle.

I don't need to lock town you to work with you. Sometimes reaching out is a sorting tool.

Fine whatever. It’s inherently scum indicative not to trust the person’s reads who needs a building to fall on them to see that I’m town. Okay.

[Titus]

My goal is to lynch scum, not perfection. That's why I don't defend players beyond what I directly clear unless asked or necessary most of the time. Rarely does it change minds and it stops people from reaching conclusions organically.

Also, there's a difference between not trusting my reads and being outright hostile to me, since Day 1.

No one really accepts my read on you, but they aren't hostile or oppositional. They'd accept my vote on their SR as town, even if they knew I was wrong elsewhere.

[Titus]

I need some sleep Nancy. Please talk to your team and see if they understand what I am trying to say, if town.

I'd talk more to mine but you know what my brother thinks of your alignment.

[Nancy Drew 39]

My goal is to lynch scum, not perfection. That's why I don't defend players beyond what I directly clear unless asked or necessary most of the time. Rarely does it change minds and it stops people from reaching conclusions organically.

Also, there's a difference between not trusting my reads and being outright hostile to me, since Day 1.

No one really accepts my read on you, but they aren't hostile or oppositional. They'd accept my vote on their SR as town, even if they knew I was wrong elsewhere.

Welcome to ME then and you should know this by now. If you don’t, then I’d have to seriously wonder what you were smoking in the other games we played.

[Nancy Drew 39]

I need some sleep Nancy. Please talk to your team and see if they understand what I am trying to say, if town.

I'd talk more to mine but you know what my brother thinks of your alignment.

Yeah, which is probably the #1 reason beyond you being dead wrong that I’m not trusting your reads.

[Micc]

Votecount 2.12

Elsa Jay (4) -

unwnd, Hectic, OkaPoka, pisskop

pisskop (3) -

DrDolittle, bob3141, NaCl

unwnd (3) -

Amrun, Eddie Cane, Something_Smart

NaCl (2) -

Titus, Elsa Jay

Not Voting (1) -

Nancy Drew 39

With 13 players alive it takes 7 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 2 is in (expired on 2020-01-28 02:10:00).

[Titus]

I need some sleep Nancy. Please talk to your team and see if they understand what I am trying to say, if town.

I'd talk more to mine but you know what my brother thinks of your alignment.

Yeah, which is probably the #1 reason beyond you being dead wrong that I’m not trusting your reads.

Civilization mafia, since you like that meta. Check that out. I have no problem disagreeing with Math's reads if I get to read the slot. Your attitude, perhaps due to my own baggage, makes it hard to do that. Civilization mafia was so bad I advocated to self lynch and then subbed out to deal with the dissonance.

My reads were right and town lost spectacularly, flawlessly. Aside from Suikoden it was one of my better solving performances once I got going.

Your play hinders me significantly here. I can't disagree with Math or agree with him because you oppose everything I do because I can't lock clear you.

Work with me where we agree. Save the fighting for later please.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Votecount 2.12

Elsa Jay (4) -

unwnd, Hectic, OkaPoka, pisskop

pisskop (3) -

DrDolittle, bob3141, NaCl

unwnd (3) -

Amrun, Eddie Cane, Something_Smart

NaCl (2) -

Titus, Elsa Jay

Not Voting (1) -

Nancy Drew 39

With 13 players alive it takes 7 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 2 is in (expired on 2020-01-28 02:10:00).

@Titus, why are you asking me to sheep you on a wagon you aren’t even voting yet?

[Titus]

Votecount 2.12

Elsa Jay (4) -

unwnd, Hectic, OkaPoka, pisskop

pisskop (3) -

DrDolittle, bob3141, NaCl

unwnd (3) -

Amrun, Eddie Cane, Something_Smart

NaCl (2) -

Titus, Elsa Jay

Not Voting (1) -

Nancy Drew 39

With 13 players alive it takes 7 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 2 is in (expired on 2020-01-28 02:10:00).

@Titus, why are you asking me to sheep you on a wagon you aren’t even voting yet?

Mod error missed it. I peed him.

[Titus]

Ugh pmed him

[Titus]

Hmm I thought I did.

VOTE: Pisskop

If I didn't.

[Titus]

Good night.

[Nancy Drew 39]

I need some sleep Nancy. Please talk to your team and see if they understand what I am trying to say, if town.

I'd talk more to mine but you know what my brother thinks of your alignment.

Yeah, which is probably the #1 reason beyond you being dead wrong that I’m not trusting your reads.

Civilization mafia, since you like that meta. Check that out. I have no problem disagreeing with Math's reads if I get to read the slot. Your attitude, perhaps due to my own baggage, makes it hard to do that. Civilization mafia was so bad I advocated to self lynch and then subbed out to deal with the dissonance.

My reads were right and town lost spectacularly, flawlessly. Aside from Suikoden it was one of my better solving performances once I got going.

Your play hinders me significantly here. I can't disagree with Math or agree with him because you oppose everything I do because I can't lock clear you.

Work with me where we agree. Save the fighting for later please.

The obvious problem is we’re disagreeing on ME! Are you familiar with the term. “cognitive dissonance”? If not, maybe you should look that up.

I am not opposed to any of the top 3 wagons but if you seriously don’t get how whacked this is fmpov, then I honestly don’t know what to tell you.